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What is the difference between reversible and irreversible controls ?

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Reversible is when there is a direct linkage from controls to control surfaces. For example the cable linkages in a light aircraft up to an MD-80.

Irreversible is when there is a hydraulic power control unit in the way, it can be mechanical or fly-by-wire. And such controls would sometimes need an artificial feel system to relay how much force is being applied.

It is found in airplanes that cannot be steered by just muscles.

A good way to picture it, is what happens if you move an aileron by hand, would the yoke turn as a result or no. Superman might be needed for a 747's rudder, but still, the rudder pedals won't budge.

More information here and here.

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Source: airlinebuzz.com

Photo shows an unpowered rudder that was swung by the wind, in the cockpit the rudder pedals would show the neutral position, hence irreversible.

  • Does this mean there is no "feel" in the controls as you don't get any feedback? – RoboKaren May 28 '17 at 06:04
  • Normally hydraulic controls usually work as force amplifiers, so the controls work as reversible as long as hydraulic pressure is available. – Jan Hudec May 29 '17 at 17:05
  • I have to correct myself. The usual hydraulic power control systems move the actuated surface to a position corresponding to the position of the control element (control column/yoke and pedals), but the force feedback to the control element is artificial. This applies also to power steering in cars. – Jan Hudec Nov 11 '19 at 22:01
  • According to a video I just saw about an aborted takeoff in an MD83 (Ameristar Air cargo flight 9363), the elevators have a direct control linkage to a control tab, but the elevators would then be moved by airflow over the control tab. Would such a linkage be considered "reversible" or "irreversible", given that the stick directly moves something that moves through the air, but that something isn't the main elevator surface? – supercat Jun 05 '21 at 20:04
  • @supercat: I mention the MD-80 in the answer. It's reversible, but only as far as the tabs are concerned. Move the tabs, and the cockpit controls will also move. The MD-90's elevator system is irreversible though. –  Jun 06 '21 at 23:50
  • @ymb1: I didn't know whether the MD-80 used the same sort of arrangement as the MD-83 mentioned in the video. If it does, I think the answer might be improved by mentioning the distinction between tabs and the control surfaces. I'm also curious, btw, how much force would be required to operate the control surfaces directly when a plane isn't moving, and whether tab-based aircraft might benefit from having levers in the cockpit--separate from the control yoke--that would be connected to the control surfaces, and could be used during pre-flight checks to ensure that the surfaces could move. – supercat Jun 07 '21 at 15:25
  • @supercat: Note: MD-80 is the family of all MD-8x. When the plane isn't moving, the tabs will still move (but not the control surfaces), and the controls will be lighter. For the lever idea, see this Q&A. BTW I can think of three different tab implementations; a general statement may end up being misleading: see this other Q&A for how it gets tricky with the 737, and how the question assumed a simple direct linkage. –  Jun 08 '21 at 03:30
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It is easy to understand it if you think this way:

  • The control force goes 'forward' from the yoke/stick/pedals to the control surface (e.g. rudder).
  • The (mostly) aerodynamic reaction travels 'back' (reverse) from the surface to the yoke/rudder.

On many (mostly heavy and/or very fast) aircraft this force link is broken at some point: your muscle force as such doesn't reach the surface, and, more importantly, the reaction doesn't reach you. 'More importantly' because this reaction is the main reason for such arrangement: it is simply too great. So, you don't feel true reaction. This arrangement is called 'irreversible'.

The link is replaced by powered boosters or actuators of some sort, and the reaction is often also recreated (to some comfortable levels) by active or passive means.

Note though that reversible control does not preclude from some automation: the control system may vary the linkage, the autopilot may add its own inputs, trim may change. This may modify the reaction (even down to zero), but in the end there is a hard link, and you can generally feel the changes of force.

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Reversible means: at the flight controls, the aeroforces at the surface can be felt. The hinge moments exerted onto the control surfaces (ailerons, elevator, rudder) by the airflow are fed back (reversed) to the pilot - holding the control surface at a certain angle requires a pilot force at the stick, creating a moment at the stick that equates the aerodynamic hinge moment at the control surface hinge.

Irreversible means: the pilot cannot feel the forces and moments that the airflow exerts on the control surfaces. They will definitely need some sort of artificial feel that links force to control position: humans have very precise force transducers in his hands, but no position transducers. So in order to get an intuitive measure of how much the flying control is deflected, an artificial resistance force is exerted by a spring based feel system. Deflecting a valve that results in oil flow that deflects a rudder, requires no force at all by itself. A limp light stick at M 0.85: not a good idea, that's why the artificial feel system is required.

Irreversible flight controls are usually hydraulically powered, but not every hydraulically powered flight control is irreversible. Aeroforces have a couple of desirable feel characteristics that are not easy to mechanically reproduce, mainly the stiffening up of the spring force as the aircraft picks up speed. In some aircraft the hydraulic actuators act as boosters: they amplify (boost) the control forces of the pilot. In the F100 the elevator is powered for 1/3 by the pilot and for 2/3 by the hydraulic actuator, and the pilots feel the airforces directly but only part of them. No artificial feel system required.

Some aircraft have irreversible flying controls with artificial q-feel, which stiffens up the spring gradient when IAS picks up, just like with reversible controls. The B737 pitch control column for instance.

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