It is said that there are some places where class G goes up to 14500 and then class E starts. However, I find they all overplayed with some special use airspace by looking at NorCal and SoCal Sectionals. Can anyone point me to some non-trivial 14500' Class G places? It is best to see some civilian airport within it.
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Are you only looking for examples from the USA? – 60levelchange Jun 23 '16 at 06:23
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@J.Hougaard Yes, I am for answers in US in this question. – CrepuscularV Jun 23 '16 at 06:25
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1@falstro: In US, Class E may start from surface, 700, 1200, 14500, and sometimes a customized AGL. – CrepuscularV Jun 23 '16 at 07:06
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Ah, you're right there's also the jagged blue line. Forgot about that one. There's some funky E space over Nevada. :) – falstro Jun 23 '16 at 07:18
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@falstro "in the lower 50"? Usually, the "lower 48" refers to the contiguous 48 states, excluding AK & HI. Was that a typo, or is that an aviation reference that I'm totally unfamiliar with? – FreeMan Jun 24 '16 at 17:39
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@FreeMan typo. sorry. Too many for my fingers and toes... ;) – falstro Jun 24 '16 at 18:35
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@falstro - just checking. It could be that we'd annexed Canada and Mexico, and I just hadn't noticed... :) – FreeMan Jun 24 '16 at 18:36
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@FreeMan UK maybe? ;) – falstro Jun 24 '16 at 18:41
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Lots of G to 14.5k in Alaska and Canada. Not much left in CONUS due to the proliferation of radar here. – StephenS Apr 28 '21 at 01:50
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It can be difficult to find these areas on a VFR sectional (there are very few of them anyway), but on an (FAA NACO) IFR en route chart they're shaded brown, so they stand out very clearly from the background. Here are a few grouped together in South Dakota.
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VFR chart:
At the western end of those areas there's a public airport, Bison Municipal (6V5):
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1There's so few of them it's a wonder they even bother to define it as 14500 – TomMcW Jun 23 '16 at 17:32
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1The highest peak in continental US is Mount Whitney at 14,505'. Class E starts at 14,500. Probably not a coincidence. – JScarry Jan 03 '17 at 21:48
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6@TomMcW This has changed substantially in the last 10-15 years. When I started flying there were lots of areas that I was familiar with that were Class E starting at 14,500. Now all those areas are gone, and only a few examples remain in the lower 48. I expect to see the trend continue, with a chance that current definitions may indeed become obsolete and superseded. – J W Apr 02 '17 at 04:13
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There are two left. Big bend national park in Texas and New Mexico near Cato MOA
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@Stephen, examples? Scanning the continental US on skyvector, I only see those two. The areas mentioned in other answers are no longer G-to-145. There are some areas of higher G charted along the Mexican and Canadian borders, and some beginning a little ways out to sea, but the two Tim mentioned are the only ones I can find actually in the US. I don't even see any left in Alaska anymore. – randomhead Oct 15 '22 at 04:32
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@randomhead What the …!? There was a ton all over the Southwest and Alaska last time I looked, and I didn’t think it was that long ago. I stand corrected. – StephenS Oct 22 '22 at 06:03
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Here is another example jewett mesa. Inside this polygonal shape is class Golf extending up to 14500 MSL:
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Looks like is has been chopped in half since the answer, making Jewett Mesa now 1200ft below class G – MonoThreaded Jan 23 '24 at 01:54
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Search for Airport (C54) for to find the Smitty MOA on skyvector.com. https://skyvector.com/?ll=34.14658987217066,-108.2852325395162&chart=301&zoom=3 – MyopicVisage Mar 25 '24 at 23:04
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L41 is another example for the case where the class E begins from 14500 and there is a public airport on the surface in the region.
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Look in the Big Bend Area of Texas. Large chunk of what your are looking for on the sectional chart in that area.
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