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I have four lights in my new house that each have two different switches to control them. They are wired so that one of the switches would have to be ON and the other OFF for the light to be ON. If both are ON or OFF, the light would be OFF.

The power went off a couple of months ago for a couple of hours. I now have 3 lights that the double-switch now works the opposite of how it used to work. Now if both switches are ON or both OFF, the light will be ON.

I tried turning off the power to the house when the switchers were all in the OFF positions but when I turned the power off, the lights went back to being ON. I then tried changing one of the switches to ON position and turned the power off and on again but the light remembered the state it was in and stayed the same.

I'm not sure what else I could do. How can I reset them to work like they did before - so that OFF + OFF = OFF?

Here are pictures of one of the switches. I thought they were normal switches and there was some other sort of switch that controls the light but it does look like there are two white leads and one black to each switch. enter image description here enter image description here

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  • You need to tell us more about the switches. Apparently these aren't just standard light switches, we need make and model number. Even pictures might help. – Tyson Jan 08 '18 at 22:48
  • Are you sure you have found all the switches? If there was a third controllong swt – Harper - Reinstate Monica Jan 08 '18 at 22:50
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    ...controlling switch in an unexpected place, and it was thrown inadvertently, that would cause this to happen. Also if any of these are other than plain old $1 3-ways, that matters a great deal. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Jan 08 '18 at 22:51
  • Can you post photos of the insides of the light boxes? – ThreePhaseEel Jan 08 '18 at 23:42
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    three way switches do not have an ON or OFF .... both positions are ON, just to a different wire. – jsotola Jan 09 '18 at 03:01
  • I have added pics. They do have 2 white leads and one black one ( plus the ground). – Hannover Fist Jan 17 '18 at 20:03
  • "I now have 3 lights that the double-switch now works the opposite of how it used to work." What happened to the fourth light? – A. I. Breveleri Jan 17 '18 at 20:47
  • Your first paragraph makes no sense as written. Please proofread it and correct it. – A. I. Breveleri Jan 17 '18 at 20:49
  • from the pics someone use back-stab wiring and left all the screws sticking out? Not directly related to the question but a sign of very poor workmanship. Is this actually a "new" house? – agentp Jan 17 '18 at 21:18
  • Have a look at how three-way switches work. You have some confusion which isn't helping us communicate. – isherwood Jan 17 '18 at 21:20
  • @A.I.Breveleri - the fourth light still works normally. I believe it was the only one that was OFF when the power went out. Not sure what doesn't make sense about P1: Sentence 1 - 4 lights with 2 switches each; Sent. 2 - Lights wired so one switch is on to be ON; S3 - if both switches are OFF light would be OFF. – Hannover Fist Jan 17 '18 at 21:20
  • And the power outage has nothing to do with this. – isherwood Jan 17 '18 at 21:20
  • I agree that the outage had nothing to do with this. These are simple , simple double pole single throw switches, no brains in the switch to get confused. If you don't like the current configuration turn the power off and flip the switch (there is not a off or on stamped on the 3 way). After flipping the switch it will change to the other combination, but if you want to really feel like living on the wild side don't flip the switch but swap the travelers and put it back in. – Ed Beal Jan 17 '18 at 22:25
  • I could swear that ALL of my switches were in the OFF (down) position when I moved in. I thought there was some extra electronic switch at the light that was toggled by the other switches. Evidently I am going crazy and it hasn't changed. – Hannover Fist Jan 18 '18 at 17:46

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This kind of switch does not have "ON" and "OFF" positions, just "UP" and "DOWN".

There are two and only two ways to set up the action of a circuit with two "two-way" switches: 

(1) ON when switches are in different positions
UP + UP = OFF
UP + DOWN = ON
DOWN + UP = ON
DOWN + DOWN = OFF

(2) ON when switches are in same position
UP + UP = ON
UP + DOWN = OFF
DOWN + UP = OFF
DOWN + DOWN = ON

I have no confidence at all that you correctly remember which way your switches worked before your power failure incident. This kind of switch is entirely mechanical with no electronic parts and cannot suddenly change its behavior in the way you imply.

Apparently from your second and fourth paragraphs, on three of your circuits, you currently have (1) but you want (2).

The standard way to switch between actions (1) and (2) is to pull out one of the switches and swap the travelers, which are the wires on the two terminals that are not marked "common".

In your case, however, I note that your switches are wired using the backstab terminals, which makes it hard to remove the wires without damaging something. So I recommend this method: in each circuit you want to change, unscrew one switch, don't change any wires, rotate it one half turn, and screw it back in. Replace the cover plates.

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