In typical signal processing course we were taught that the integral of signal $x(t)$ is given by $$y(t) = \int_{-\infty}^{t}x(\tau) d\tau$$ How can we use this definition to evaluate the integrals of eternal sinusoids, $x(t) = \sin (t)$ or $x(t) =\cos(t)$. I mean how do you evaluate / prove that $$\int_{-\infty}^{t}\cos(\tau)d\tau = \sin(t)$$
Thanks in advance.
Edit: I raised this question because of its (ab)use in frequency modulation(FM) for single tone signal. To give details, any FM wave of single tone signal $m(t) = \cos(\omega_0 t)$ is given by \begin{align} \Phi_{FM}(t) & = A\cos\left(\omega_c t + K_f\int_{-\infty}^{t}\cos(\omega_0 \tau)d\tau\right) \end{align} It can be written as \begin{align} \hat{\Phi}_{FM}(t) & = A\: Re\left\{\exp\left(j\omega_c t + jK_f\int_{-\infty}^{t}\cos(\omega_0 \tau)d\tau\right)\right\} \end{align} or \begin{align} \hat{\Phi}_{FM}(t) & = A\:Re\left\{\exp\left(j\omega_c t\right) \exp \left(j K_f\int_{-\infty}^{t}\cos(\omega_0 \tau)d\tau\right)\right\} \end{align} In communication systems textbooks, the argument of exponential term involving cosine term is magically written as $\dfrac{K_f}{\omega_0} \sin (\omega_0 t)$ which really fascinates me.
Later they claim this is periodic signal and hence can be represented as Fourier series expansion involving Bessel functions etc.,
As I mentioned it is really magic and am interested in knowing this magic trick. Hence this post. Sorry for being so long....
Thanks to all of you.
https://personal.utdallas.edu/~saquib/EE4365/FM-Modulation.pdf
Hope it helps.
– user5045 Apr 30 '20 at 10:49https://dsp.stackexchange.com/questions/46491/where-is-the-flaw-in-this-derivation-of-the-dtft-of-the-unit-step-sequence-un Matt L says: "That limit, however, doesn't exist. More precisely, it doesn't exist in the conventional sense." Snarky version: It's not magic, it's Engineering Math. BTW, you are missing an "i" (as a Mathematician) or "j" (as an Engineer) inside your "Re(exp)" to make the "cos". – Cedron Dawg Apr 30 '20 at 11:27
Corrected. Being an engineer I use '$j'$. Thank you.
– user5045 Apr 30 '20 at 13:22$$ y(t)= \lim_{L\to-\infty} \int_{L}^{t}\cos(\omega_0\tau)d\tau $$
Which does not have a "proper" limit.
Defined conveniently:
$$ y(t)= \int_{-\infty}^{t}\cos(\omega_0\tau)d\tau = \frac{1}{\omega_0} \sin(\omega_0 t) $$
May you all be subjected to three terms of Real Analysis.
– Cedron Dawg Apr 30 '20 at 15:36$$ y(t)= \int \cos(\omega_0t)dt = \frac{1}{\omega_0} \sin(\omega_0 t) + C $$
Nothing improper about that. I would use the term "generalized" as Matt L did, rather than "symbolic". There is rationale for the definition of convenience. You can find it following the links in the question I referenced in my first comment.
– Cedron Dawg Apr 30 '20 at 16:01