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Consider the equation : $$ y[n]-\frac{1}{2}y[n-1]=x[n] $$ where $x[n]:=\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{n}u[n]$. First, I founded the homogenous solution $y_{h}:=A\frac{1}{2^{n}}$ $$ y_{h}[n]=\frac{1}{2^{n}}y[0] $$ where I insist $A=y[0]$. Furthermore, The particular solution is given of the form $y_{p}[n]:=B\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{n}$ I shall determine $B$ as follow : $$ B\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{n}u[n]-\frac{1}{2}B\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{n-1}u[n-1]=\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{n}u[n] $$ \begin{align*} \implies B&=\frac{\displaystyle\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{n}u[n]}{\displaystyle\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{n}u[n]-\frac{1}{2}\displaystyle\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{n-1}u[n-1]}\\ \\ &=\frac{\displaystyle\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{n}}{\displaystyle\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{n}-\displaystyle\frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{n-1}}\\ \\ &=-2 \end{align*}

So now that we have $B=-2$, We are given the initial rest condition so what I did was sub $n=0$ in difference equation $$ y[0]-\frac{1}{2}y[-1]=x[0] $$ $$ \implies y[0]=1 $$ $$ **\text{So this means $A=y[0]=1$}** $$ However, the major issue is that : $$ y[0]-\frac{1}{2}y[-1]=x[0] $$ $$ \implies y[0]=1 $$ $$ \implies y[n]:= y_{h}[n]+y_{p}[n] \implies y[0]=y_{h}[0]+y_{p}[0]=1 $$ $$ \implies A\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{0} -2\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^{0}=1 $$ $$ \implies A=3 $$ So I have $A=1$ and $A=3$, an obvious contradiction and I hope someone can help me

SPARSE
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  • You never say what your actual initial condition (I assume $y[0]$) is. Nor do you say if this is a typical problem where $y[-1]$ is undefined. – TimWescott Mar 05 '21 at 00:56
  • The idea is that applying rest condition gives $y[0]-0.5y[-1]=x[0]$ but $x[0]=(1/3)^{0}=0$ and $y[-1]$ is $0$ so $y[0]=1$. @TimWescott – SPARSE Mar 05 '21 at 07:58
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    I don't see why you can't assume that $y[n] = 0$ for all $n<0$. The solution will for $y[n]$ will involve $u[n]$ too. – IanJ Mar 06 '21 at 19:32

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From the comments under Tim Wescott's answer, it seems that there is still some confusion concerning the correct way to solve such problems. Let's consider the non-homogeneous difference equation (DE)

$$y[n]-p y[n-1]=q^n,\qquad p\neq q\tag{1}$$

with initial value $y[-1]=c$. Note that initially we don't restrict the forcing function on the right-hand side of $(1)$ to equal zero for $n<0$.

As correctly shown in the OP, the general solution to the homogeneous DE has the form

$$y_h[n]=Ap^n\tag{2}$$

which is also called the natural response, and a particular solution (forced response) of $(1)$ is given by

$$y_p[n]=Bq^n\tag{3}$$

The constant $B$ is determined by substituting $(3)$ into $(1)$:

$$Bq^n-pBq^{n-1}=q^n\tag{4}$$

from which we obtain $B=\frac{q}{q-p}$. Consequently, the general solution of the non-homogeneous DE $(1)$ is

$$y[n]=y_h[n]+y_p[n]=Ap^n+\frac{q}{q-p}q^n\tag{5}$$

Note that the solution $(5)$ is valid for all values of $n$.

The value of $A$ is determined by the initial condition $y[-1]=c$. Substituting $n=-1$ into $(5)$ and setting it equal to $c$ results in

$$A=cp-\frac{p}{q-p}\tag{6}$$

The solution to the initial value problem is hence given by

$$y[n]=cp^{n+1}+\frac{1}{q-p}\left[q^{n+1}-p^{n+1}\right]\tag{7}$$

We now only consider values $n\ge 0$, simply because that's the range we're interested in.

Note that the term $cp^{n+1}$ in $(7)$ is the zero-input response (ZIR), and the remaining term is the zero-state response (ZSR).

From an engineering point of view, composing the solution into a ZSR and a ZIR appears more natural and more useful than the classical decomposition into a homogeneous and a particular solution, because the decomposition of the solution into ZSR and ZIR separates the contributions arising from an external input and from internal conditions, respectively.

Matt L.
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where I insist $A=y[0]$

There's your problem. $y[n] = y_h[n] + y_p[n]$, so $y[0]$ must equal $y_h[0] + y_p[0] = A + B$.

Can you take it from here?

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  • Wait, I was just noticing that in my finding of $B$, don't you think the entire problem is ill-posed because there are two different values for $B$ if $n=0$ and $n>0$. I am referring to my derivation of finding $B$ where I wrongly removed $u[n]$ and $u[n-1]$. – SPARSE Mar 04 '21 at 22:21
  • But here $A=A+B \implies B=0$ which is not the case according to OP? – B E I R U T Mar 04 '21 at 23:26
  • The OP is saying $y[0]-\frac{1}{2}y[-1]=x[0]$. You can't do that -- $y[-1]$ is undefined. All you know about $y$ (if the problem is framed in the usual way) is that $y[0] = 1$ is true. – TimWescott Mar 05 '21 at 01:51
  • Well, and the given difference equation. The difference equation establishes $B$, $y[0] = 1$, and some arithmetic, establishes $A$. – TimWescott Mar 05 '21 at 02:05