This is clear to me thinking about integration like area under a curve, but how can it be proven? (assuming $f$ is continuous and using the fundamental theorem of calculus, and $\forall x\in[a,b]$)
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4For any partition $P$ you must have $L(f,P) \ge 0$, hence the integral must be non negative. Neither continuity nor fundamental theorem of calculus are necessary here. Only integrability of $f$. – copper.hat Mar 17 '15 at 18:44
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thanks. Is it possible to somehow use the fundamental theorem of calculus for this? – user42 Mar 17 '15 at 18:47
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Define $F(x)=\int_a^x f(t) dt$. What is $F(a)$? What is $F'$? Once you know $F'$, can you see that $F$ is increasing? Given $F(a)$ and that $F$ is increasing, can you see that $F(x)=\int_a^x f(t) dt\geq 0.$ – Randy E Mar 17 '15 at 18:48
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Got it,thank you. But what is $F(0)$? – user42 Mar 17 '15 at 18:50
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I guess I should say "non-decreasing" rather than "increasing", in the event that $f(x)=0$ over some interval of positive length in the domain of $f.$ – Randy E Mar 17 '15 at 18:54
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This problem is in desperate need of quantifiers. – Git Gud Mar 17 '15 at 18:55
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I added the quantifier. Thank you everyone for the responses – user42 Mar 17 '15 at 18:57
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@RandyE This. – Git Gud Mar 17 '15 at 18:58
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@GitGud Thanks! I've wondered about this terminological problem for a while, but never found a good answer. So I should say "weakly increasing" rather than "increasing" or "non-decreasing." – Randy E Mar 17 '15 at 19:10
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Assume that $x\ge a$ in the integral $\int_a^x f(t)dt$
Let $f(x)$ be the derivative of a function $F(x)$
Since $f(x)\ge0$, the function $F(x)$ must be weakly increasing, and since $x\ge a$ we have $F(x)\ge F(a)$
We know from the fundamental theorem of calculus that $$ \int_a^x f(t)\,\mathrm dt=F(x)-F(a) $$ Can you see it now?
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If $f$ is continuous, yes. But not in general; take a function which is zero except at a single point. – Neal Mar 17 '15 at 19:06
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@user42 My proof works if $f(x)\ge0$ for all $x$ in the interval used as limits on the integral. – Alice Ryhl Mar 17 '15 at 19:08
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You know that $$f\geq g\implies \int f\geq \int g,$$ therefore, $$f\geq 0\implies \int f\geq \int 0=0$$
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I'm not the downvoter and your answer is correct and the simplest way of proving it, however the question stated
using the fundamental theorem of calculus– Alice Ryhl Mar 17 '15 at 18:55 -
It's correct in the sense that it obviously answer the problem, but - in addition to what Kristoffer said - it's also obvious that such a problem wouldn't come up after this result was proven. – Git Gud Mar 17 '15 at 19:00
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Simply use $\int_{a}^{x} (f-0)dt \geq0$. Now split the integrals and take the second one to the RHS
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