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I'm trying to prove that the group below isn't cyclic:

$G = \{ (1, 2, 3, ... n)^a\cdot(n+1, n+2, n+3, ... 2n)^b \mid 0 \leq a,b \leq n-1 \}$

To do this, I'm trying to show that none of the elements of $G$ have order $n^2$ - however I've made little progress.

Any help would be much appreciated,

Jack

Jack
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    What does the notation $G = { (1, 2, 3, ... n)^a\cdot(n+1, n+2, n+3, ... 2n)^b \mid 0 \leq a,b \leq n-1 }$ mean? – DHMO Apr 17 '17 at 15:57
  • Sorry maybe I should have been more specific. $(1, 2, 3, ... n)$ and $(n+1, n+2, n+3... 2n)$ represent permutations (in k-cycle notation) - and I'm examining the group formed by taking products of powers of these cycles. – Jack Apr 17 '17 at 16:00
  • @Jack no power of (1,2,...n) belongs to the subgroup generated by (n+1,...,2n) – i. m. soloveichik Apr 17 '17 at 16:04

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Let $\alpha = (1,2,3,\dots,n)$ and $\beta = (n + 1, n + 2, \dots, 2n)$. Then given any element $\alpha^a\beta^b$, $(\alpha^a\beta^b)^n = \alpha^{na}\beta^{nb} = e$ since $\alpha$ and $\beta$ commute. You might also like to show that $G \cong Z_n \times Z_n$ where $Z_n$ is the cyclic group of order $n$ and the isomorphism is $\alpha^a\beta^b \mapsto (a,b)$. Then you would need to show that $Z_n \times Z_n \not\cong Z_{n^2}$.

Trevor Gunn
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Indeed, if $g \in G$, then $g^n=1$. So the order of every element in $G$ is at most $n$.

lhf
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  • I'm not sure whether that's correct - for instance the identity is an element of the group but it's order is 1 - not n? – Jack Apr 17 '17 at 16:08
  • I said, at most $n$. – lhf Apr 17 '17 at 16:08
  • Thanks for your reply Ihf - and sorry for not catching on - but can you explain why $g^n$ must equal 1 and, why that means the order of every element in G is at most $n$. – Jack Apr 17 '17 at 16:16
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The group is generated by two cycles $\sigma = (1, \dots, n), \tau = (n+1, \dots, 2n)$ in $S_{2n}$. These cycles are disjoint obviously.

Define $\Bbb{Z}_n \times \Bbb{Z}_n \xrightarrow{\phi} S_n$ by $a \times b \mapsto \sigma^a \tau^b$. Then this is an embedding as $\phi(a,b) = \text{id} \implies a = b = 0$ or else $\sigma^a \tau^b = \text{id}$ so that $\tau$ is not only not a disjoint cycle from $\sigma$ it is an iterate of it ($\sigma^k$, for some $k$).

But according to this lemma: The direct product of two cyclic groups is cyclic iff their orders are coprime.

It's nice to use other results. It reduces the workload of what you're trying to prove.

  • Thank you for your reply. However, unfortunately, I haven't seen much of the notation which you've used before. I have neither encountered "direct products" of groups. I don't suppose there is a simpler answer akin to Ihf's? – Jack Apr 17 '17 at 16:22
  • @Jack what's an lhf? – Daniel Donnelly Apr 21 '17 at 04:23