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I'm trying to prove the following, though I'm not sure if it's true.

Given a closed set $F \subseteq \mathbb{R}$ such that $m (\mathbb{R} \setminus F)<\infty$.

define the distance function - $d(x) = inf\{|x-y| \mid y\in F\}$.

I want to prove that for almost every $x \in F$ lebesgue density point of $F$ there exist an $\alpha > 1$, a constant $C>0$ and an open ball $B$ with $x \in B$ such that -

$$ y \in B \Rightarrow d(y) \le C{|x-y|}^{\alpha}$$

it's sufficient for me that this will be the case for almost every $y \in B$.

intuitively, if I get closer to a density point, I know that "most" of the points in the ball are from $F$, so I would like to use that and the $inf$ to show the claim. I also tried to create a counter example with no luck.

  • I'm on my way out the door now (so don't have much time), but I don't understand why you want to prove for almost all Lebesgue density points, since this is weaker than what is probably true, namely for all Lebesgue density points (and the "almost all" then applies to the closed set). Also, this answer might be of help. – Dave L. Renfro Sep 04 '19 at 12:56
  • I think that it will be true for all the density points, yet I need this claim for a different question in which it is sufficient to work with a.e. point. I saw the answer you linked to, it's a bit weaker than what I need. – shadowguy Sep 04 '19 at 14:01
  • I ten to suspect that a carefully constructed "fat Cantor set" gives a counterexample. Alas I have to go to class... – David C. Ullrich Sep 04 '19 at 14:23
  • "If we'll look at a general point, if it has a neighborhood inside $F$, it's trivial, and perhaps we can show that almost every lebesgue density point has such neighborhood." No, not almost every point of density is an iinterior point of $F$. For example a "fat Cantor set" has positive measure and empty interior... – David C. Ullrich Sep 04 '19 at 14:54
  • I'm sorry, you're right. how would I build the counterexample? – shadowguy Sep 04 '19 at 17:11
  • Of possible use: On strengthening the Lebesgue density theorem by Taylor (1959), Category of density points of fat cantor sets by Buczolich (2003), various papers by Delladio on "enhanced density", On density points of measurable linear sets (1942, Russian; French summary on pp. 262-264; also, see pp. 466-468 of Volume II of the English translation of Nina Nina Bari's treatise on trigonometric series; google Sur les points de densité des ensembles linéaires mesurables), (continued) – Dave L. Renfro Sep 04 '19 at 22:13
  • see "superdensity" in index of Fine Topology Methods in Real Analysis and Potiential Theory by Lukes/Maly/Zajicek (1986), On metric density of functions by Sarkhel (1971), various papers dealing with $\psi$-density topology, On the summability of the differentiated Fourier series by Waterman (1967), Perlman's 1972 Ph.D. dissertation On the Theorem of Fatou and Stepanoff, Solution of two problems concerning F-sigma sets of measure zero by Kirchheim (1990). – Dave L. Renfro Sep 04 '19 at 22:23

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In fact a "fat Cantor set" gives a counterexample. The construction is slightly complicated. Lucky for you it's much simpler now than it was an hour ago; it turned out I could throw away a lot of detailed estimates.

Fat Cantor Sets

Given a sequence $(\lambda_n)\subset(0,1)$ we construct the corresponding "fat Cantor set" exactly as in the construction of the well known middle-thirds Cantor set, except that instead of removing the middle third of each interval in going to the next stage, for each interval $I$ at stage $n$ we remove the middle interval of length $\lambda_n|I|$. (Here and below we write $|I|$ for the length of an interval $I$.

So we have $$K=\bigcap_{n=0}^\infty K_n,$$where $K_0=[0,1]$ and $$K_n=\bigcup_{j=1}^{2^n}I_{n,j},$$where for each $n$, $(I_{n,j})$ is a collection of disjoint closed intervals with $|I_{n,j}|=\delta_n$.

(Just to make sure we're on the same page we note that if we take $\lambda_n=1/3$ we get the middle-thirds Cantor set.)

So far we have just a "variable dissection ratio" Cantor set, or some such term. To be "fat" a Cantor set is supposed to have positive measure. It's evident that $$m(K_{n+1})=(1-\lambda_n)m(K_n),$$so $m(K)=\prod_n(1-\lambda_n)$; now the basic result about infinite products says

$m(K)>0$ if and only if $\sum\lambda_n<\infty$.

The Counterexample

We will construct a fat Cantor set as above, so that if $d(y)=d(y,K)$ then $$\limsup_{y\to x}\frac{d(y)}{|x-y|^\alpha}=\infty\quad(x\in K, \alpha>0).$$

Note The condition $m(\Bbb R\setminus F)<\infty$ is really irrelevant; if you want that then construct $K\subset[0,1]$ as below and let $F=(-\infty,0]\cup K\cup[1,\infty)$. Note that $\{0,1\}\subset K$, so that if $y\in[0,1]$ then $d(y,F)=d(y,K)$.

Note we will use notation as in the previous section.

Suppose $x\in K$. Fix $n$ for a while. There exists $j$ so that $$x\in I_n=I_{n,j}.$$ Let $y_n$ be the center of $I_n$.

Now, recalling that $|I_n|=\delta_n$, the middle subinterval of $I_n$ that gets excluded from $K_{n+1}$ is $$J=\left(y_n-\frac{\lambda_n}{2}\delta_n,y_n+\frac{\lambda_n}{2}\delta_n\right).$$Since the endpoints of $J$ turn out to be points of $K$ it follows that $$d(y_n)=\frac{\lambda_n\delta_n}2.$$(In fact all we need below is $d(y_n)\ge\lambda_n\delta_n/2$, which is clear just because $J\cap K=\emptyset$.)

Since $x\in I_n$ and $y_n$ is the center of $I_n$ we have $$|x-y_n|\le\delta_n/2.$$So for $\alpha>1$ we have $$\frac{|x-y_n|^\alpha}{d(y_n)}\le c\frac{\delta_n^\alpha}{\lambda_n\delta_n}=c\frac{\delta_n^{\alpha-1}}{\lambda_n}.$$

It's clear that $\delta_n\le 2^{-n}$, so we're done if we can find $\lambda_n$ with $\sum\lambda_n<\infty$ and $$\lim_n\frac{2^{-n(\alpha-1)}}{\lambda_n}=0\quad(\alpha>1).$$For example, $$\delta_n=\frac1{(n+2)^2}.$$

($n+2$ instead of $n$ just to make sure $\lambda_n<1$ for all $n\in\Bbb N$, even if someone takes $0\in\Bbb N$.)

Moral

Variable-dissection-ratio Cantor sets are useful for constructing all sorts of examples. So what's above was an obvious thing to try (once I actually tried it it came out simpler than I expected).

Unimportant Comment

I keep saying I was surprised how simple this was. For the benefit of anyone who feels it's not all that simple, comments on how it could have been (and was at first) much worse:

I was surprised that the trivial estimate $|x-y_n|\le\delta_n/2$ was sufficient. Of course in general there's not much more to be said about $|x-y_n|$. But there is more you can say if $x$ lies in the right half of the left half of $I_n$, or the left half of the right half; in the original I needed an argument showing that for almost every $x$ that happens for infinitely many $n$.

And I was surprised that the trivial estimate $\delta_n\le2^{-n}$ was enough. In fact $\delta_n=2^{-n}\prod_{j=1}^n(1-\lambda_j)$; I assumed at first I was going to have to deal with that...

  • very nice! so the claim won't work everywhere. now it remains to check if it's possible that it won't be true for a set of positive measure. – shadowguy Sep 05 '19 at 14:55
  • @shadowguy See new and improved version. (Since you're new here I might point out that if you believe it you might consider upvoting it and/or "accepting" it by clicking on the little arrow.) – David C. Ullrich Sep 05 '19 at 16:29