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The original problem is here: Galois extension: does isomorphism in subgroups implies isomorphism of the subfield?. My question was, given $L/Q$ finite Galois extension, and suppose for $S$, $H$ Galois subgroups and $S \cong H $, is it necessarily true that $L^H \cong L^S$. This is not true as Hagen von Eitzen pointed a counterexample with $Q(\sqrt{2}, \sqrt{3})$. However, I noticed that part of the reason is that $\sqrt{2}, \sqrt{3}$ are not the roots of the same irreducible polynomials. So $x^2 -3$ has a solution in one field but doesn't have in the other. Now suppose $L$ is the splitting field of $Q$ with respect to some irreducible, separable polynomial $p(x) \in Q[x]$, does the statement hold in this case? This seems correct to me, because $Q(\alpha) \cong Q[x]/p(x) \cong Q(\beta)$ for $\alpha, \beta$ roots of $p$, so intuitively these roots are indistinguishable, and if the permutation of these roots are isomorphic, it seems we can just swap the roots to get an isomorphism of the subfields. Is this statement correct?

The One
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  • The new question has nothing to do with Galois extensions/theory, though. If $F$ is a field, $p(x)$ is a polynomial that is irreducible over $F$, and $\alpha,\beta\in\overline{F}$ are any two elements of an algebraic closure of $F$ that are roots of $p(x)$, then $F(\alpha)\cong F(\beta)$ and one can realize the isomorphism with a function $\sigma\colon F(\alpha)\to F(\beta$ such that $\sigma(a)=a$ for all $a\in F$ and $\sigma(\alpha)=\beta$. – Arturo Magidin May 10 '21 at 00:20
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    What you write is not quite correct because (i) $Q/p(x)$ does not make sense; you probably meant $Q[x]/p(x)$; and (ii) $Q(\alpha)$ is not equal to $Q[x]/p(x)$, it is only isomorphic to it and same with $Q(\beta)$. – Arturo Magidin May 10 '21 at 00:22
  • Sorry for my typo. Yes of course if you just map $\alpha$ to $\beta$ you get an isomorphism from $F(\alpha)$ to $F(\beta)$. So I wonder if you can extend this such that for any two isomorphic subgroups $S, H \subset Gal(L/Q)$, you can construct a similar map so that $L^H \cong L^S$ – The One May 10 '21 at 00:32
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    No, you can’t. An easy example is to take a polynomial of degree $4$ with Galois group $S_4$ (and those are known to exist). Then the subgroups ${e,(12),(34),(12)(34)}$ and ${e, (12)(34),(13)(24),(14)(23)}$ are isomorphic subgroups, but one of them is normal and the other is not. So the fixed field of one will be Galois over the ground field, and the other will not, and so they cannot possibly be isomorphic as fields. – Arturo Magidin May 10 '21 at 01:01

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Your new restriction doesn’t really buy you anything new. The old example still fits.

The Primitive Element Theorem tells you that any finite extension of $\mathbb{Q}$ is simple, and hence is isomorphic to $\mathbb{Q}(\alpha)$ for some root $\alpha$ of an irreducible polynomial. In particular, if $F$ is a finite Galois extension of $\mathbb{Q}$, then there exists $\alpha\in F$ such that $F=\mathbb{Q}(\alpha)$ and $F$ is the splitting field of the irreducible polynomial of $\alpha$.

In the case of the example you already have: it is well known that $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{2},\sqrt{3}) = \mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{3})$. So if you take $p(x)$ to be the irreducible of $\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{3}$, namely $$p(x) = x^4-10x^2+1$$ then $\mathrm{Gal}(p(x))\cong C_2\times C_2$, with the fixed fields of the three subgroups of order $2$ being $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{2})$, $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{3})$, and $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{6})$, no two of which are isomorphic as fields.

While it is true that adjoining any of the four roots of $p(x)$ gives you the same field, it just gives you the splitting field in all cases.


For a more involved example, take a polynomial with Galois group isomorphic to $S_4$. Such polynomials exist. Saying “has Galois group isomorphic to $S_4$” is just a way of saying the splitting field $L$ has a Galois group $S_4$. In $S_4$, you have two subgroups isomorphic to the Klein $4$-group, $N$ and $H$, with $N\triangleleft S_4$ and $H$ not normal, namely: $$\begin{align*} N &= \{e, (12)(34), (13)(24), (14)(23)\}\\ H &= \{e, (12), (34), (12)(34)\}. \end{align*}$$ But that means that the fixed field of $N$ is Galois over $\mathbb{Q}$, while the fixed field of $H$ is not. Hence, they two fields cannot be isomorphic.

Arturo Magidin
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  • Thank you so much for explaining this! I also found a link that suggests the equivalent relations between conjugacy classes in the Galois group and field isomorphism https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/817638/conjugate-groups-of-galois-group-if-and-only-if-isomorphic-extensions. So it seems that as long as the subgroups are not conjugate(e.g. one of them is normal), the subfields can't be isomorphic – The One May 10 '21 at 02:11