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I went today to the swimming pool and I remembered that when I was younger my mom used to tell me to be careful because you get sunburnt much more easily in the water than in the ground.

I never gave this a lot of thought until recently and I consider that it might be caused by two factors: the reflection and refraction of sun rays in the water and the loss of efficacy of your sunscreen produced by the water (even if it is water resistant).

Is the first effect actually relevant? It should be possible to compare the flux of energy due to reflected rays to that compared of direct rays.

Do we get sunburnt more easily because of the reflection? In case this is the case I would like to know if there is any difference between the effect in a swimming pool or in the sea.

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  • Glacier travel certainly gives lots of reflection (and tends to be at high altitude so there is more UV anyway). – Jon Custer Jun 21 '16 at 22:00
  • The loss of your sunscreen is absolutely relevant and you shouldn't rely on it, in the first place. Wear a t-shirt and a suitable cap/hat/long swim gear. Today it's even fashionable, thanks to the effort of certain manufacturers to introduce overpriced products into that category. :-) Reflection on bright surfaces is also a real effect. I had a mild corneal sunburn in the arctic once (I wasn't listening to what they told me about keeping the goggles on at all times, either!) and boy, was it unpleasant. My simple advice to you: better be careful than sorry. – CuriousOne Jun 21 '16 at 22:06

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Yes. It's is not so much the water is the beach sand reflecting light back to you like a parabolic mirror. The droplets of water on your skin can form more surface area to catch light creating a magnifying effect focusing light on your skin as well. The random texture in the beach sand will also give you even tan. Most sand is white in color even if not the water and sand in its natural state are glossy where dirt or grass absorb more of the spectrum of light including UV light.

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  • Do you know of any clinical evidence for the claim that you'll suffer worse sunburn getting around in your bathers on the beach instead of on the same day in a grassy field? Your answer certainly makes sense and is mostly correct physics, although I'm not altogether sure of the waterdrop effect: it's probably a weak effect because the focal point of a waterdrop would be quite deep under the skin and the energy concetration at depths where UV can reach would be minimal. – Selene Routley Jun 22 '16 at 01:15
  • @WetSavannaAnimalakaRodVance Most sand is white in color even if not the water and sand in its natural state are glossy where dirt or grass absorb more of the spectrum of light including UV light. – Muze Jun 22 '16 at 22:11
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    I'm not disputing your answer: it's certainly correct physics, although I think that the waterdrop effect would be very weak. I'm simply curious and asking what I always ask in these kinds of questions, because we physicists are pretty poorly kitted up to answer them definitively. Human bodies are complex, way above the level a poor physicists mind can grasp, and one needs epidemiological analysis to answer this kind of question properly. – Selene Routley Jun 22 '16 at 23:36
  • While water droplets may increase the surface area of one's skin by a trivial amount, it increases the cross-sectional area of the skin by an even more trivial amount. Without offense, the water droplet surface area claim seems dubious at best. – ninjagecko May 13 '17 at 20:31
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Is there actually any evidence that being in water increases your risk of getting sunburn? I suspect that this inference confuses correlation with cause.

On brilliant sunny days you are more likely to strip off and get in the pool or go to the beach to cool down. If swimming or diving you are unlikely to wear a sunhat. More of your skin (especially the paler parts) is exposed to UV, and there is no or little shade. You might remain in this environment for a few hours, cooled by the water and distracted by playful social activity and ice-creams. The cool water might also soothe the onset of sunburn, masking the warning signs (a point made by @JohnRennie in Why does wet skin sunburn faster?). (On the other hand, the same cooling effect should reduce sunburn.) If you were to lie on a sunbed instead for the same amount of time, you would probably have a greater risk of sunburn.

If instead you decide to go for a walk or cycle ride, play tennis or sit in the beer garden, you are likely to be wearing at least a T-shirt and a sun hat, and to have some shade from trees or a parasol.

Because of these factors, sunburn is more likely to occur at the beach or outdoor pool than when doing other activities, thus giving the impression that water increases the risk. I think it is the other factors, rather than the water, which causes the sunburn. Sunburn acquired while sunbathing between dips in the water might also be attributed to the water.

According to the WHO website, the reflection of UV from water is not significantly different than from grass or soil (http://www.who.int/uv/faq/whatisuv/en/index3.html). Reflection from still water can be high at grazing incidence, near sunrise or sunset, but the sunlight is significantly less intense at these times. You are far more likely to be in the pool around mid-day, when the sun is overhead. (Waves could bring some water near grazing incidence.) The largest reflection would come from white foam or sand.

The focussing effect of water droplets would only concentrate incident UV into local burn spots; they do not capture extra UV or increase the total amount incident on the skin. They are soon washed away or evaporated. The skin is hydrophilic, so droplets do not remain on it. The surface of hair is naturally hydrophobic, but after bleaching (eg in strong sunlight) becomes hydrophilic.

I think the main effect of the water itself is (as you suggest) that your sun-block gets washed off (if not waterproof) or rubbed off as you get dried between dips.

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