It is been said that KVL follows law of conservation of energy. But I'm not getting the analogy between them. How does KVL supports law of conservation of ENERGY?
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Within the limitations pointed out in the answer by @naturallyinconsistent), KVL follows the law of conservation of energy in that the electrical potential energy supplied per unit charge in a circuit by voltage sources equals the energy that is either dissipated or stored per unit charge in the circuit resistance, capacitance, and inductance. Or, as it is often stated, the sum of the voltage rises (energy supplied) equals the sum of the voltage drops (energy dissipated or stored) in a circuit.
Hope this helps.
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KVL has nothing to do, conceptually, with conservation of energy.
KVL is a rule relating electric potential drops on circuit elements in any closed loop in a circuit: because potential is a single-valued function of position, in general, sum of potential drops on elements in a closed path is always zero.
True, this means electric potential energy of a charge returns to the original value after the charge returns to the original position. So, potential energy of single travelling charge changes in time, but repeatedly returns to some previous value, when the charge returns to previous position.
But this does not mean conservation of electric potential energy in time, or conservation of all energy in time. Electric potential energy of travelling charge decreases as it moves along in the circuit, and increases in the battery, or power source. Also, EM energy is typically not conserved, even while KVL holds; for example, in a circuit where current flows through resistors, some EM energy is transformed into heat. KVL is valid, but EM energy is dissipated into other forms.
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Voltage is defined as the energy per charge moved across the voltage difference. In a conservative situation, when you move the charge around in a loop and go back to where you are, it should be obvious that the potential energy of the charge goes back to what it was before, and hence it is a statement of the conservation of energy.
Note that, strictly speaking, this has to be done quasistatically, because an accelerating charge radiates energy away in the form of light.
Note also that it is a special case to consider conservative situation here. KVL is the special case of Faraday's Law, and when you are no longer in the conservative situation, Faraday's Law tells you how much the energy will not be conserved. It is not conserved because it is going to be taking or giving away energy into the electromagnetic field, which encompasses the situation I just covered earlier.
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why the down vote here? – Bob D Jul 12 '23 at 14:50
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2The fact that particle's potential energy changes in time and returns to original value after returning to original position, is not a statement of conservation of energy, but a statement that potential energy is a function of position only, and for a fixed position, does not change with time. This return trip need not be done quasistatically, the charge may be involved in energy transformation, in a resistor, or emitting antenna. – Ján Lalinský Jul 12 '23 at 14:52
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1KVL is not a special case of Faraday's law. It is a practical rule for writing down circuit equations, independent of Faraday's law. Faraday's law is used to express induced EMF in a circuit or circuit element. That is useful when expressing potential drop on ideal inductor, when writing down KVL. – Ján Lalinský Jul 12 '23 at 14:55
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1Despite the common misconception, KVL is not an expression of the statement that total electric field circulation for a loop is zero. – Ján Lalinský Jul 12 '23 at 14:59
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3I know you like to be wrong, but the "statement that potential energy is a function of position only" is an equivalent to a definition of a conservative field. And equivalent to saying that the circulation for any loop is zero. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_vector_field – naturallyInconsistent Jul 12 '23 at 15:39
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@naturallyInconsistent I agree with all that (except for liking to be wrong). You used "but" because...? – Ján Lalinský Jul 12 '23 at 18:51
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@naturallyInconsistent "potential energy is a function of position only" means there is a conservative field; this is the conservative component of total electric field, and electric potential is defined based on that conservative component only. It does not mean that total electric field is conservative. – Ján Lalinský Jul 12 '23 at 22:42
I wanted to give a mathematical answer as I believe it illustrates the point quite clearly. The Kirchoff's loop law directly follows from Maxwell's Equations. Consider the following Maxwell equation:
$$ \nabla \times \vec{E} = -\frac{\partial \vec{B}}{\partial t}$$
If you are unfamiliar with the notation, this just means that a changing magnetic field produces an electric field that likes to curl. Now consider a loop in your circuit and integrate both sides on the surface the loop covers. We then have
$$ \int_ S (\nabla \times \vec{E}) \cdot d\vec{A} = \int_ S \frac{\partial \vec{B}}{\partial t} \cdot d\vec{A}$$
Now if we have a simple circuit with a steady current, the magnetic field will be 0 $\vec{B} = 0$. So our equation becomes
$$ \int_ S (\nabla \times \vec{E}) \cdot d\vec{A} = 0$$
We can now use Stokes's theorem to change this surface integral to a line integral and we have
$$ \int_{Loop} \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{l} = 0$$
Remembering that the voltage is defined as $\Delta V_{AB} = -\int_{A}^B \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{l}$, we deduce that in the circuit $\Delta V$ = 0, i.e the total potential difference must be 0. This can be interpreted as energy conservation as the fact that there is no varying magnetic field (and therefore a varying electric field), the system cannot gain any energy from the electromagnetic fields. What must go in also must come out.
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1KVL can and does include inductors whose magnetic fields may fluctuate. The important point of the KVL is that it assumes that the three kinds of energies, electric, magnetic and dissipated can be localized, and separated into (1) electric, (2) magnetic, (3) dissipated forms, the emphasis is on geometric (spatial) separation, read @JanLalinksy's answer below. – hyportnex Jul 12 '23 at 15:46
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It definitely can and it is easy to generalise to inductors by including the magnetic flux on the RHS as an addition to potential. I discarded for the simple case where there are no inductors to get the point across. – emir sezik Jul 12 '23 at 15:50
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see https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/733015/the-proof-of-kvl/733423#733423 and https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/431502/can-kirchhoffs-voltage-law-be-applied-here/431539#431539 – hyportnex Jul 12 '23 at 16:28
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1On an answer that correctly starts from Faraday's Law, and after specialising to the case where B fields are time-independent, derives KVL, it is silly to then comment that KVL can do more than it can do. Just use Faraday's Law for when magnetic fields are changing in time, and be done with it. The successes of lumped circuit analysis are successes of Faraday's Law, not KVL. – naturallyInconsistent Jul 12 '23 at 19:14
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This is a (common) misunderstanding of KVL. Voltage on element in the context of lumped element model circuit is difference of electric potential on the element terminals, regardless of whether total electric field is conservative. Thus it is integral of conservative part of electric field, not of total electric field. That's why KVL holds in general - electric potential is always defined, and single-valued. It does not matter whether $\oint \vec E \cdot d\vec{l}$ for total electric field $\vec{E}$ is zero or not. – Ján Lalinský Jul 12 '23 at 19:27
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1@JánLalinský KVL 'holds in general ' for a partial component of the electric field that happens to be the total electric field only when the field is conservative. It's a weak form of generality, I'd say. – Peltio Jul 12 '23 at 20:49
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1@emirsezik you miss a "time derivative of the" before 'magnetic field=0". Before the third equation. – Peltio Jul 12 '23 at 20:55
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@Peltio it is as general as possible, meaning it is always true. KVL does not refer to total electric field, it refers to differences of electric potential. – Ján Lalinský Jul 12 '23 at 22:24
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1@JánLalinský it's as general as tautologies can be. Voltage (the V in KVL) can be expressed as a potential difference only when the electric field is conservative. Maybe if we renamed KVL into KSPDL, it would avoid many problems. Even from an operational point of view, the voltage measured by a voltmeter is the path integral of the total electric field, not of the conservative part alone. And btw, this is the definition adopted by the IEC. – Peltio Jul 13 '23 at 00:31
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@Peltio "Voltage" has different meanings in different contexts. Voltage in the context of KVL and circuits models is not the IEC definition of voltage; instead it is potential difference here, even if electric field in parts of the circuit is not conservative, e.g. when an inductor is in the circuit. KVL is valid there and applicable, as ideal inductors have potential drop $LdI/dt$, regardless of the fact total electric field is not conservative in and around the inductor. – Ján Lalinský Jul 13 '23 at 01:47
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@Peltio What voltmeter measures depends, in general, on how you arrange the lead wires. It shows something related to net EMF in the voltmeter part of the measurement circuit, not potential difference between two points. To properly measure potential difference between two points, one uses untangled loop-free shielded lead wires which eliminates most of the effect of induced field. – Ján Lalinský Jul 13 '23 at 01:50
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@Peltio IEC voltage is a path-dependent concept. The case where the path goes through a wire is sometimes relevant, although in physics we should call that more accurately as the net electromotive force in the wire segment. But sometimes this IEC voltage is completely irrelevant (on a perfect inductor in a circuit, it is always zero, while the voltage in physics sense, difference of potential, is $LdI/dt$). – Ján Lalinský Jul 13 '23 at 01:54
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@JánLalinský the IEC definition is path dependent because in the presence of changing magnetic fields the electric field is non conservative, so I'd say it is the correct and most general definition of voltage. For the origin of the L di/dt 'drop' at a coils terminal see how it is explained in Ramo, Whinnery vanDuzer, "Fields and waves in communication electronics", ch4. It clearly shows the the voltage along the coil is different from the voltage across the coil's terminals. Defining voltage as the path integral of the total E field simplifies and generalize the analysis of em problems. – Peltio Jul 14 '23 at 16:24
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@Peltio there is no "the correct" definition of voltage. The word is overloaded and enables confusion - IEC uses one definition, electrostatics and circuit theory another. That's why in the latter contexts it is best to use instead "difference of electric potential" or "potential drop" to explain the theory and calculations. – Ján Lalinský Jul 14 '23 at 17:58
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@JánLalinský I agree that 'correct' is not the right word and I agree that there are multiple conventions that are each more useful than the other depending on context. What I meant is that by keeping the scalar potential (path integral of the conservative part of Etot) clearly separated from voltage (path integral of Etot) a lot of confusion can be avoided. I made my point in this answer: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/667777/is-voltage-and-electric-potential-actually-the-same-thing-if-not-why/733761#733761 . Using different symbols can be, at least didactically, a better choice. – Peltio Jul 14 '23 at 18:06
To amplify on @JanLalinsky's answer, KVL and KCL are not really physics but is a topological result on linear graphs that allows us a consistent set of labeling (numbering) of nodes and branches, see BAMBERG & STERNBERG : A COURSE IN MATHEMATICS FOR STUDENTS OF PHYSICS, chapter 12. This topological content is expressed in Tellegen's theorem that is a rather surprising generalization of energy conservation itself. Physics comes in by our ability to separate the electromagnetic energetic phenomena into spatially distinct pieces of electric energy, magnetic energy, and dissipated energy and assign them to the branches of the graph. Once you place those numerical values on the graph (network) energy conservation, and more, is assured.
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The potential difference between to positions $A$ and $B$ is minus the work done by an electric field $\vec E$ in taking unit positive charge between those two positions.
$V_{\rm AB}= -\displaystyle \int_{\rm A}^{\rm B} \vec E \cdot d\vec \ell$
So consider the following circuit with unit positive charge completing the loop $ABCDA$.
Work done by electric field in moving unit positive charge from:
A to B
$V_{\rm AB}= -\displaystyle \int_{\rm A}^{\rm B} \vec E \cdot d\vec \ell$
The integral will have a negative value as the directions $\vec E$ and $\vec d\ell$ are opposite and so $V_{\rm AB}$ will be positive. Put another way there is an external force (due to an electrochemical reaction) which is doing positive work in moving the unit positive charge from $A$ to $B$.
The next three integrals will have a positive value as $\vec E$ and $\vec d\ell$ are in the same direction and so each of the three potential differences will be negative.
B to C
$V_{\rm BC}= -\displaystyle \int_{\rm B}^{\rm C} \vec E_1 \cdot d\vec \ell$
C to D
$V_{\rm CD}= -\displaystyle \int_{\rm C}^{\rm D} \vec E_2 \cdot d\vec \ell$
D to A
$V_{\rm DA}= -\displaystyle \int_{\rm D}^{\rm A} \vec E_3 \cdot d\vec \ell$
For the complete loop the net work done by the electric fields is zero, ie
$V_{\rm AB}+V_{\rm BC}+V_{\rm CD}+V_{\rm DA}=0$
which is Kirchhoff's voltage law.
The analysis above assumes that there is no magnetic change linked with the circuit.
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