framed package change math?

Question

This code :

\documentclass{article}
%\usepackage{framed}
\begin{document}
bla bla bla $\cap_{i\in I} X_i.$
\end{document}

produces : Symbol without framed package

and the same code with the line \usepackage{framed} uncommented produces :

Symbol with framed package

!!? How can this be possible ? I had a look at the framed.sty file and there is nothing like a "\cap" redefinition... ?

I can't reproduce this in my system (TeX Live2014). Which LaTeX distribution do you use? — Gonzalo Medina, Feb 28 '15 at 17:10
Miktex 2.9 on win 7. Maybe just a dvi problem ? I always use YAP. I'm going to see the PDF... — Carré rond, Feb 28 '15 at 17:13
No, same result with pdflatex and the intern pdf viewer of TexStudio. — Carré rond, Feb 28 '15 at 17:16
Hum... without being "trolly", is TexLive "better" than Miktex in the sense that you have less problems using packages and compatibility ? (I have always used Miktex, so I don't know anything about other distribution...) — Carré rond, Feb 28 '15 at 17:19
i can't reproduce this with tex live 2012, and have checked framed.sty to make sure the version used is still the same on ctan. (it is.) — barbara beeton, Feb 28 '15 at 18:07
I tested this in two files there is no difference. Miktex2.9 acrobat11 — touhami, Feb 28 '15 at 18:08
The framed.sty in the standard distribution will not change the fonts. please add \listfiles to your example, uncomment the framed line and then if it still changes the font add the full log to your question, so we can see what it's done. — David Carlisle, Feb 28 '15 at 21:58

score 2 · Accepted Answer · edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:35

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It's not framed the responsible for this change in the math symbols, but MnSymbol.

Here's the example:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{MnSymbol}
\begin{document}
bla bla bla $\cap_{i\in I} X_i.$
\end{document}

enter image description here

Don't trust in advice (even if it's from this site) telling you to use the package just because it provides some symbol you need, because this package changes all math symbols to shapes that are thought to blend with the Minion font and are definitely out of place with Computer Modern (see the ugly \in).

Look at Importing a Single Symbol From a Different Font for importing just the symbols you need.

By the way, the correct way to input that formula is

$\bigcap_{i\in I}X_{i}$.

Note \bigcap and the full stop outside the formula.

edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:35

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answered Feb 28 '15 at 21:31

egreg

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Thanks for the answer but I don't understand. Why is the MnSymbol involved in my example, because I don't use it via \usepackage ? The change arises when I put \usepackage{framed}. There are no other package imported in my example...
And by the way, in effect other symbols are affected... :(
– Carré rond Feb 28 '15 at 21:44
@Carrérond No, it's really impossible that just loading framed causes the problem, unless you have a bogus framed.sty somewhere on your system. – egreg Feb 28 '15 at 21:45
@Carrérond Can you look in the log file for the path to framed.sty? You should find something like /usr/local/texlive/2014/texmf-dist/tex/latex/framed/framed.sty Package: framed 2011/10/22 v 0.96: framed or shaded text with page breaks Search for framed.sty. – egreg Feb 28 '15 at 22:10
You're right : in fact, framed uses the mnsymbol package (line 110 of framed.sty is \usepackage{mnsymbol}) !! Now I understand... I'm going to make tries (comment the line...) to see what happens :-). Otherwise, I don't know what to do... – Carré rond Feb 28 '15 at 22:32
@Carrérond As I said, you have a bogus copy of framed.sty; the CTAN one doesn't load MnSymbol. – egreg Feb 28 '15 at 22:40
Yes, understood. I didn't know there would exist many different versions of a package... I don't remember where I picked up my version ? Thanks for the help :). – Carré rond Mar 01 '15 at 08:22

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