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Looking back, what really convinced you to begin writing with TeX or LaTeX?

This question is "community wiki", so there's no reputation to lose or to gain.

Please don't write advantages of TeX and LaTeX or any pros and cons.

I hope to read about something like

  • a drastic experience that led you to TeX,
  • a beautiful book, paper or poster that changed your view dramatically,
  • a first big success with a (La)TeX creation,
  • a person who inspired you.

Anything in this spirit would be great. Please post just a single reason or event in each answer. If you further shared a similar experience that you read here, voting that up would be fine.

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    I think at first it was mostly curiosity. – Caramdir Aug 21 '10 at 10:48
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    I started using Latex because I wanted my school HW's to look really nice since the teacher at the time was adding 10% extra credit for well written reports. I really only wanted that extra credit for the HWs. This is how it all started. But now I use Latex for almost everything, even if there is no extra credit. – Nasser Jul 04 '13 at 03:07

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In 1993, I was drafted in the army (at that time, army service was still mandatory in the Netherlands). I was placed at a communications centre that ran 24/7. Being a communications centre, we had access to quite a lot of good PC hardware for that time. Also, typically nothing much happened, and so we installed the then brand-new Slackware Linux distribution on a bunch of them, to toy with and study Unix system administration (as that was a lot safer than experimenting on the actual srv4 minicomputer we ran).

Slackware at the time came on 40 or so floppy disks, and about a quarter of them were marked 'TeX'. I remember thinking: if it is considered that important, it must be good ...

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I've written my bachelor thesis in Microsoft Word (version 2003, if memory serves), and that was excruciatingly painful experience. It's not that I was new to Word, or that I can't find my way around a computer program, but it frustrated me to no end.

Word has automatic TOC creation and formatting, but there are occasions that you want to make it just right --- for example, trimming a bit a long section title to fit on one row (which in LaTeX is trivial).

As far as figures went, it worked mostly okay, unless you try to keep a figure on a specific page and manually try to adjust it to fit. Even the slightest change in the text moved all the stuff around, and I had to double check almost all of the figures again and again. Numbering worked okay-ish, though.

References.. Don't even get me started on references --- I had to manually format them all (30+ entries), and that Gargantuan effort took probably a better part of a workday.

Fortunately, I had a good equation editor (not the Microsoft-supplied excuse of a such), and that made writing equations a breeze.

Code formatting and pretty-printing was another thing I struggled with --- I ended up taking screenshots of the Matlab code from the editor, and adding those in the appendix. My nerves were seriously shaken and I didn't want to get through the painful manual formatting again.

So, just a few days before I finished the thesis, I went to complain about my miserable existence to my math go-to guy, and he showed me one of the exams he prepared for his students --- he was doing some black magic in vi in a terminal, and he had some Makefiles for additional stuff like automatic generation of the problems and the solutions, uploading them automatically to the server, and preparing a sheet with names of all students in which the results are to be published later. All this with a click of a button. To my jaw-dropped mug he said "Oh, it's just LaTeX". And then he explained some of the basic stuff, and gave me a book to read. (Knuth's, of course). That's how it started.

As for a personal LaTeX pride --- my master thesis is prepared with LaTeX, and I used quite a lot of functionality outside basic LaTeX --- subfigures, listings, ams packages, page margins, headers and footers, BibTeX, customized hyperref, plus more. I even made a .tex template that resembled the one we had in .doc format for thesis work.

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    Only 30 references :-) My thesis (in Word) has about 200, and that's quite a small number. I probably should have had more. – Joseph Wright Aug 21 '10 at 08:40
  • Well, it was mostly programming-oriented, and most of the algorithms were quite well-known, although I used them with modifications and in different context. And you can't really make a reference for a GUI :) – Martin Tapankov Aug 21 '10 at 19:19
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    Isn't a bachelor's thesis supposed to be short? If so, I think you are citing a lot of stuff needlessly with your 200+ references. – levesque Aug 23 '10 at 22:47
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    Ah, I thought you meant PhD: I'd always call an undergrad thing a 'report' – Joseph Wright Aug 25 '10 at 09:10
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    Phhhh "report" ahem. =) disagree.... – Dima Aug 31 '10 at 00:48
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    This answer seems more like a MS Word rant to me. As for '... trimming a bit a long section title to fit on one row (which in LaTeX is trivial', I think it is all about knowing your tools. Without google-ing, I would have no clue on how to do that in LaTeX, whereas I know you can do that pretty easily in Word using the character formatting dialog box. And the 'with a click of a button' is also very optimistic. I takes a LOT of work to create a button that does what you want with just a click. – Rabarberski Feb 14 '13 at 08:19
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I feel fortunate. The first OS I ever used was unix, my first year of university, and was told immediately to learn emacs and that all lab reports for a class I was in had to be done in LaTeX. It was over 5 years before I ever used any MS software, and I've never used it to any great degree since. And I find Word confusing as hell. It's always doing things that I don't want and then I have to spend time figuring out how to undo it. It's automatic capitalization features drives me nuts.

So I was bred on the beauty of LaTeX and thought that was normal. I was never faced with the decision to choose LaTeX over Word. For me the decision was the reverse: should I go with Word and dump LaTeX? At my first job everyone was using Word so I tried it. I found it too anti-intuitive, too ugly (I hate ragged-right justification for example), dangerous (lost docs on a semi-regular schedule due to Windows semi-regular crashing), and the learning curve was just too high (way higher than LaTeX, imo). I was always asking others how to undo something Word was just sure that I wanted to do but didn't. I gave up on Word and now only use when forced to, which is rare.

I'm still having trouble absorbing that Joseph wrote his thesis in Word.

Word's popularity is explained by my "Doughnut Theory" : If all you've ever eaten are doughnuts, you can tell a good doughnut from a bad doughnut, but you have no idea what good food is.

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The same reasons that led Knuth to creating TeX in the first place: to have our math texts look good.

lhf
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Invisible formatting in MS Word. So many times I had the bullets of a list become italicized or differently sized because somewhere (before?, in the item?, after? - never figured it out) there was or used to be a formatting of that sort.

And then I had to make some last minute changes to a paper written in Word but I was at a machine that only had OpenOffice. It wrecked the formatting. It looked good in OO, but when I opened it in Word the next day, I realized how the paper was submitted (the prof had Word).

That was the last straw.

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    You can tell Word to display all whitespace and invisible formatting using light grey symbols, which is what I invariably use when editing client texts, since otherwise I can't reliably tell a single space following a period from a double period. – Charles Stewart Oct 25 '10 at 11:45
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I was an undergraduate at MIT in the early 1980s and used TeX ('78) for the first time to write my undergraduate thesis in Physics. I had been using something called Scribe in order to write essays and also played around with troff. Both were very limited in their ability to typeset mathematical content -- although I recall writing an essay on group theory using Scribe.

During my time working as an undergraduate research assistant at the Laboratory for Nuclear Science, I saw people producing beautifully typeset preprints with lots of mathematical formulae. I asked around and found out that they had been produced using TeX (which at the time was TeX '78) and which was installed on only a handful of computers at MIT at the time. I was converted immediately and wrote my 1984 undergraduate thesis using TeX. That version does not compile any longer, but at some point I converted it to LaTeX.

In graduate school in Stony Brook, TeX '82 (as the new version was called then) was available and this is what I used to typeset letters, notes, papers, thesis,... I always used TeX (with an increasing collection of macros) instead of LaTeX, until some time in the 1990s when LaTeX2e came out and I was persuaded to change. I liked the way my PhD thesis looked and I especially liked the fact that the macros made the source very readable. Visually it was perhaps not too striking.

In summary, it was an aesthetic choice based on the need to typeset documents with a complicated structure and substantial mathematical content.

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In linguistics (my field), LaTeX offers many concrete advantages: automatic numbering/referencing of linguistic examples, automatic aligning of foreign language words/translations, automatic syntactic tree drawing; a full range of logic symbols, easy access to phonetic fonts etc., not to mention other basic academic requirements such as citations and bibliographies. When Mac OSX came out, running LaTeX became quite simple, and I made the switch then.

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I recently co-authored a book for a major tech publisher. They formatted it using -- I kid you not -- MS Word.

The late stages of the editing process (where I was working with the publisher's .doc files instead of just sending them text) were so painful that I vowed to learn Tex and/or LaTeX before helping my mother self-publish her upcoming quilting book.

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I like emacs and always want it to be able to fulfil my document preparation needs. LaTeX/TeX turns out to be the best solution. I make templates for most of the uninteresting documents and make them accessible through a key shortcut in emacs and thus I can produce documents no slower than people using word or the like.

emacs-tex

Emacs extension used in the screenshot:

I have temporarily released minibuffer-choose.el at http://paste.lisp.org/display/113728. Most packages (org-mode included) when present choices to users use a message in the minibuffer (echo area to be precise) or a new buffer. This package actually uses the minibuffer so you get the experience of a real buffer and the convenience of the echo area. You can TAB, Shift-TAB, C-n, C-p, C-s, C-r, M-n, M-p or type directly the highlighted character to choose a choie. Example:

(let ((files (directory-files "/usr/local" t "[a-z]+")))
  (minibuffer-choose "Choose: " files 'file-name-nondirectory nil 'alpha))
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  • My emacs doesn't have that... I really want this, how can I do it? I created my templates, but I always use the C-x i and specify the path to my template to insert it in the new file I am creating... – Vivi Aug 21 '10 at 09:13
  • I have added a bit explanation. The only entry function is minibuffer-choose. I hope the doc string is clear. – Leo Liu Aug 21 '10 at 11:08
  • I just want to add: That's very interesting! – Bran the Blessed Aug 21 '10 at 15:33
  • oh, wow, thanks for that! I had "find an easier way to use templates" on my Emacs to do list for a while, and this will be more than I had hoped for! – Vivi Aug 22 '10 at 01:26
  • Enjoy emacs and TeX ;) – Leo Liu Aug 22 '10 at 08:47
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Througout high school, I did all my math, physics and chemistry hand-ins in MS Word using Equation Editor, teaching myself the various short cuts, and patiently moving the equations back where they belonged when they for no apparent reason jumped. It was natural to continue this when I started at the university (and I had never heard of TeX/LaTeX). A few weeks later, my TA in linear algebra wrote "Come to the dark side. Learn LaTeX!" on one of my hand-ins. A week later, I was addicted :-)

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When I was starting to attend university, I was truly enlightened by LaTeX. This system really absolved me from my previous troubles: When I high school, I used to fiddle with Microsoft Word. All went well, but, naturally, one of my friends did not have the correct version of Microsoft Office to open my file. This was when I started to think that the WYSIWYG approach is doomed.

Nowadays, I do not use Microsoft Word or OpenOffice Writer. Instead, I fire up my favourite text editor (vim *ducks*) and type anything in LaTeX: Memos, letters, documentation, papers, presentations, you name it. Coupled with the version control tool git, I can browse through the history of my works with ease, all the while never having to fear that something is lost.

I am not sure whether any word processor, how advanced it may be, can give me this feeling of bliss when simply concentrating on what I want to write, not how it should look. To quote Allin Cottrell:

One only has to imagine, say, Jane Austen wondering in what font to put the chapter headings of Pride and Prejudice to see how ridiculous the notion is. Jane Austen was a great writer; she was not a typesetter.

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I'm a lawyer. I'm earning money by typing or speaking (Dragon became a lot better recently).

Typing into Word under pressure is horrible. It looks awfully. The program tries to outsmart me. It may crash.

LaTeX is much more easy going. Deadlines still are deadlines, but I know, as long as there's electricity, I'm gonna make it. It's reliable, if you know, what I mean. And the output is pretty.

Some years ago I delivered a legal due diligence written with Lyx for a bank in Kuwait and the customer was satisfied. My clients often can not judge whether I'm a good lawyer, but at least the pages look better than they are used to see.

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I was in college and my friend told me about this LaTeX thing. I was initially totally dismissive, "Why would anyone want to compile a document?" As a computer science student, I had spent more than enough time waiting for programs to compile and couldn't imagine doing the same for my documents.

I forget the specifics, but I believe we had a (modern) algebra assignment to write up. My friend did his in LaTeX. I wrote mine in some "normal" text editor. After comparing the output and the relative difficulty of producing beautiful mathematics, I was a convert.

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I was re-writing the documentation to our software (check out the LaTeX versions here). I like to write using lots of figure examples. I also like to write lots of cross-references. The trouble was, Word was an absolute train wreck. If I modified anything mid-document, all of my figures would end up pilled up at the bottom. My cross-references needed constant and manual updating... it just was not working.

I was in the middle of this nightmare when I was playing poker with some friends. I said something like, "I %^&*in' hate Word for what I'm doing. I wish there was something out there that was made for this."

Two of my poker buddies (both nerds) said, at the same time, "LaTeX!" They described it to me and I could not concentrate from then on. I was absolutely obsessed with finding out more.

I did and the rest, as they say, is history. I wrote my first manual (The Cablecast Guide) and have slowly built up quite a robust set of macros that define the style and common tools for everything from our documentation to our pricing guides.

It's been about 4 years with this work flow and I find myself, very often, looking for something better. LaTeX has its oddities. The drill is, I'll hear about something (Prince, DocBook) and then I think to myself, "This is it! The end of LaTeX! Now I can finally be rid of Longtable!"

This never pans out, however. 30+ years of LaTeX has lead to some pretty fantastic capabilities and indispensable packages (Datatool, TikZ).

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It was a bottle of sherry for me!

I don't know quite how I first became aware of the existence of TeX - I installed Linux on my first PC (my first computer was a BBC Micro which didn't, back then, support Linux) because the people with whom I was friends at the time wouldn't have stayed my friends if I hadn't! So TeX came along with it, and I suppose that many of my lecturers used TeX (of some flavour) for typesetting notes and the like so it was "in the air" as it were.

So by the middle of the fourth year of my degree I was sufficiently aware of TeX, and it's importance in mathematics, that when a lecturer set a challenge problem (I think it was that A_5 is simple), I decided to write my solution in LaTeX in order to learn it (I guess I'd already absorbed the lesson that the best way to learn LaTeX is simply to Do It^{TM}). So I wrote up my solution and duly handed it in!

(I got the sherry)

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I had to write my Ph.D. thesis and the only thing available was Word 3 on a Mac Plus (many years ago). But in the computer room there was a copy of the TeXbook and one of "The joy of TeX"! I was fascinated and eventually (after the Ph.D. thesis was finished) I managed to get a working implementation of TeX; I was the first in my Math department to use TeX (plain or AMS-TeX).

I switched to LaTeX some years later when some colleagues asked me to help in producing the Proceedings for a conference they had organized. AMS-LaTeX had just been released and typesetting a math book with LaTeX had become possible. It was a pretty big volume: 393+x pages and 41 papers. Many of the papers had been written in ChiWriter (probably very few of you know about it). I'm pretty satisfied of the result, which required to define a personal document class and solving some difficult alignment problems: the conference was about Mathematical Physics, which is not my field, and some of the papers had huge formulas.

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Before using LaTeX, I created documents in OpenOffice.org and made extensive use of its semantic markup to format text (basically, I have never used the B, I and U buttons or the “font” selection in the formatting menu bar – I always created my own styles). Unfortunately, OOo had a few bugs that made this a real pain. Sometimes, changes in formatting were not adopted across the document. Sometimes, changes got mixed up.

Automatic references and figure numbering were also buggy as hell. Oh, and did I mention that I spent hours adjusting the word breaking and orphans to improve the overall look?

At some point I actually unzipped the document files (the .odf files are just renamed .zip containers) and edited the content XML manually to fix some wrongly nested markup.

So you can imagine that once I heard of LaTeX, my conversion was natural and immediate. But I was somewhat disappointed because LaTeX didn’t live up to my expectations of semantic markup: \textit? \textbf? Doesn’t sound very semantic to me. It took me some time to figure out that to work effectively in LaTeX, you need to define your own macros and use those. Once I learned this, I haven’t looked back.

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Back in 2007, I had to write an article with actual mathematics in it. The text editors had a very poor math support, not the mention the lack of productivity and a ugly and messy document in the end. I use the \vdash symbol a lot in my mathematical stuff and soon I discovered that none of those editors had a symbol for that. I refused to use |- or instead (the second abomination, oops I mean symbol is for drawing ASCII boxes) as a replacement for \vdash.

A friend of mine suggested me to use LaTeX. Needless to say I was very skeptical, but at that point I had nothing to lose. So I embraced the idea. He told me some LaTeX basics (sections, items, inline math, and so forth) and how to produce my very first document. After writing my first lines of mathematics in LaTeX –- which was insanely fast and very intuitive –- I couldn’t believe in my eyes. Everything was correctly in place, beautiful typesetting and with a professional look.

Since then, LaTeX became part of my life. For everything. =)

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Powerpoint sucks. I couldn't in the best of my enthusiasm, complete a presentation with 20 sides filled with code and images. More than half the time would be spent in formatting it.

Then I came across beamer and wrote some custom commands in an hour and then created a presentation the way I wanted, with images in a folder, code in a folder and all the content mentioned in a file.

I am proud of very happy with this alternative, and the work I was able to do using it.

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    Powerpoint may suck, but used correctly it’s vastly superior to preparing presentations with LaTeX. This is one of the areas where I think LaTeX isn’t well-suited at all. In fact, the average LaTeX presentation is just as bad as the average PowerPoint presentation, which is saying something. (Disclaimer: I don’t use PowerPoint either.) – Suggested Read: “Presentation Zen” by Garr Reynolds. – Konrad Rudolph Sep 22 '10 at 08:38
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    I agree that slideshows test a TeXer's mettle. Being able to adjust the location of something interactively (rather than by editing coordinates) is fundamental to powerpoint, and I would say fundamental to the way most people make presentations. That said, I still use powerdot for all my slideshows. It takes longer, but that's because I tend to care about the output more than I do when I'm making a powerpoint. – Brandon Kuczenski Sep 22 '10 at 21:13
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    Konard, I disagree. The way to make presentations has evolved a lot in the recent years. Bullet points are so year 2000. What i needed, was either an image, or some code. And I could easily specify the files in the tex file to complile. – lprsd Sep 28 '10 at 11:56
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    Konard, With powerpoint, I'd need so many mouse clicks etc, to choose the file for each slide and adjust it to the resolution needed. It was a breeze with Beamer. Thats a huge advantage. – lprsd Sep 28 '10 at 11:57
  • Yeah, but you can do more with powerpoint than just put an image file per slide ... ^^ – Richard Durr Jun 04 '11 at 18:03
  • @Richard: That's part of the problem. I was at a presentation of a Bachelor's thesis once, where they had (and I kid you not) a several minutes long animation of some fairly irrelevant text. The "hey, I can do animations, cool" part of Powerpoint is very dangerous. – You Jul 20 '11 at 12:41
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Two things put me on the road. The author is perhaps the greatest influence on my programming career--- his article in DDJ alerted me to a problem that I had been wondering about at the time. Later (again a result of the Knuth) I became entranced with the idea of 'Literate Programming'. This approach precisely fit a problem I had; how to preserve code and document it at the same time. As this was a maintenance task, there wasn't a budget for any of the very expensive tools of the time, but LP was for free so I began to get my hands dirty. In that the code involved a chess engine, there were problems that were quite difficult for a beginner to solve, but in general correspondence with the authors of various packages kept me going. Moving forward a great many years I use LaTeX almost without thought for anything I deem needful of typesetting. Wouldn't have it any other way.

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Quite recently I decided to undertake a major private project: Taking a large body of RPG-related books (I.C.E.'s classic Rolemaster, 2nd Ed., to be precise), re-editing it (making one concise rule volume instead of a set of base rules and lots of optional add-ons) and translating it (to my native German). The goal was to provide a rule book that my friends and I could use for a RPG campaign.

That's a good dozen books of ~100 pages each, to be compiled into a ~300 page 4-part volume chock full of tables, lists, charts etc., with hundreds of cross-references to chapters and tables, footnotes and graphics.

Another requirement I placed on myself was to make the result look as much as the original as possible - including the two-column layout, typesetting, chapter headings etc.

Previous experience told me that neither MS Word nor OpenOffice Writer would be up to a task of these proportions and still be maintainable.

I've heard about LaTeX before (from co-eds at university), and decided that this was the time to give it a try.

Being a professional software engineer, I like learning new (or, in this case, old) technologies, widening my skill set, and actually prefer doing things "in source" as opposed to "WYSIWYG". (Being able to diff and grep and sed and svn my work sounded like it could come in really handy given the scope of the work, and I was absolutely right).

I downloaded the basic LaTeX package, the Texmaker editor, and a "quick guide", set up a SVN repository for the .tex files, and went ahead. It took me less than a day to realize that LaTeX was the ideal choice for a project like mine. Especially the fine control over tables impressed me, as well as the ability to enter the table data right away and worry about the actual layout at some later point.

I ordered the LaTeX Companion the next day. Took me a couple more days to find your excellent site here, though I ask myself what took me (regular customer at StackOverflow) so long.

I can't say I'd use LaTeX for everything, or even for most things. But for my project right now, I couldn't imagine anything more adequate. Too bad I won't be able to make it available to the public once I'm done. :-\

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  • Just as a late add-on, in the meantime I am using Vim with the excellent latexsuite add-on for editing, and have learned lots about Vim too. Never scoff at the old toys in the trade, they hold quite some surprises... – DevSolar Nov 27 '12 at 04:36
  • +1 for "I like learning new (or, in this case, old) technologies" :) – marczellm Jan 12 '13 at 17:18
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I came to (La)TeX as a graphic designer fed up w/ the limitations of Quark XPress and Aldus PageMaker (I think that should adequately place my experience time-wise) --- I'd just read Bringhurst's Elements of Typographic Style and was enchanted w/ the idea of perfection and hanging punctuation, &c.

At that time, the only graphical design tool which could hang punctuation into the margin nicely was Altsys Virtuoso, which ran on NeXTstep on a NeXT Cube. NeXTstep included TeX, and Tom Rokicki's TeXview.app --- TeX was the first design tool I found which had the same freedom and limitless possibilities as paper (or vellum, or parchment) and ink, where the limiting factor wasn't the featureset some corporation was willing to implement, but my own ingenuity and skill and patience.

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I wanted something that made my calc and physics homework look pretty. At the time, Word couldn't handle equations gracefully. I looked around for something that could generate equations I could import into Word and found a LaTex equation generator and a WYSIWYG LaTex frontend that, when used in combination, would output pretty pdfs that I could then drag into Word. Eventually, I just shifted over to using the LaTex frontend for everything and tweaking the code as needed. I haven't used LaTex in ages, but I have many fond memories of it.

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I have seen the beautiful typography in a computer magazine. I was stunned by its beauty, it just looked like "printed".

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I played about with Latex as an undergraduate at the end of the '80s, but didn't "commit" to Tex until I started postgraduate work in 1994 and needed to typeset logic, and found that the advantage in this domain that Latex had, and still has, over any non-Tex-based document preparation system is huge: the support for laying out proof trees alone would have been decisive (I know of four implementations, and I wrote one myself), but additionally the specialist typesetting needs of logicians have received attention in the Tex community and not outside of it.

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When I was a first year undergraduate math student, the lectures handed out some notes. Looking back today they were merely standard LaTeX documents. But back to then, they looked so amazing. And I would like my homework to have that look.

With quite a lot of efforts, I did reproduced one or two pages of the notes using Word. That was a painful progress especially the input of math. In addition the adjust of the layout took quite some time. I gave up Word and many other softwares, because I didn't believe that the professors would spent that much time to produce some lecture notes.

So the next step is searching. Well, I always like to solve problems alone. And after hours of googling I found TeX/LaTeX. The rest of the story was what you can guess easily.

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As an undergrad I often failed to find a free machine in the shared labs on which to run Word or T3, as machines with hard drives were still relatively scarce. In contrast, editing plain text files with vi meant I could use essentially any system with a keyboard (even my ancient home PC), yet TeX produced such good-looking documents. Bibliographies and cross-references that just worked were the icing on the cake.

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For me it was the lack of nice typography/typesetting of Math content with other programs/philosophies (20 years ago...)

Background:

I started my studies of Physics and Mathematics at the University of Freiburg in Germany in 1996. In my first year I had the plan of typing some of my notes from the lectures to have it more readable (to others and me too ;-))

I first used MS Works/Word (there was no Formula editor then, if I remember correctly) and had to copy over symbols from strange fonts I found on a shareware CD and was still frustrated that my texts looked not as nice as the worksheets and problem sheets from university we had solve each week in order to credits.

I asked on of assistant of the professors how they were done and his short answer was: "I use LaTeX -- go to our computer pools, it's installed there."

Fortunately, I had an account and went there and tried it, using strange search engines to look after LaTeX (providing other results that I did not searched for ;-)) -- on a very early version Linux, however, my knowledge of both LaTeX and Linux was limited, I bought (!!!!) a 5 CD - Volume snapshot of the CTAN - archive of 1997 for about 40 DM, which would be about 20 € nowadays.

I went home and installed a LaTeX version which I can't rememberhow it was named (emTeX, perhaps) and did my first trials on my last computer that was based on MS Windows only, I had no internet connection at that time, so getting information was much more difficult (especially, there was no TeX.SE or latex-community.org in order to look for advises and solutions)

I found LaTeX fun and the results were much of my liking and definitely better than what I generated with WORD etc. Of course, not everything was typographically beautiful.

Heading towards my Diploma thesis I became tutor of younger students and had to assist professors, it was then my 'job' to provide worksheets with LaTeX, Lab course reports and seminar talks were typeset with LaTeX (that was before beamer appeared) and my final report for gaining admission to the Diploma level before starting the thesis itself was the first 'major' work I wrote.

Of course, my Diploma thesis was written in LaTeX (using book.cls) and all papers/talks later on as well as my PhD thesis.

Graduating a third time with Teacher Seminar I wrote my 3rd thesis again with LaTeX and nowadays 99.9% of my work sheets, formularies etc. and my presentations are done with LaTeX and I get many praises by my students/pupils for providing readable and comfortable texts to them, compared to other teachers that still glue things together before using the copier ...

Nowadays I have gained some knowledge about the internals of TeX etc., but I am no core developer, of course, although I was able to ship some packages to CTAN already.

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I started using TeX because there was no alternative.

Back when I was a student, followed by a couple years as assistent professor, TeX was only available to the computer science folks, and not to us mathematicians. But I had heard about TeX, and figured this had to be the future. So I bought the TeXbook and read most of it, even though I had no TeX system to play with. This was followed by three years in a research institute where I had to use their half-baked system for technical typesetting. Finally, when I got my present university position, I got a PC – but it was still not powerful enough to run TeX! So I managed to get access to the Sun workstations at the computer science department, and started using TeX for real. Rummaging through my old files, the earliest TeX file I can find is from November 1987: A somewhat frivolous note on Rubik's cube. But I soon started using it in earnest.

Since then, things have only improved. Now and then, someone was trying to talk me into trying other software, like MS Word. But it only took a single look at the output to laugh it off as not a serious competitor.

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About 20 years ago, I had to write a report and a friend of mine had a piece of software called Ventura. This software didn't have a nice user interface, so we studied the Ventura output format and realised it was aplain text format, which we could edit by hand with vi. I don't know the exact details anymore, but there would be command sequences for Greek letters and so on.

Later, when I saw a guy's presentation in our local group at university, it almost looked like Ventura, but better. When I asked him if it was Ventura, he said, `No, this is LaTeX.' The next day I went to the library, got a copy of Lamport's book and read it from cover to cover. Then I started using LaTeX, and I've never looked back.

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It is 1982 and I had just been made product manager for our PDP 11 (RSX11M) based SCADA system. I had acquired a spare PDP 11 for a development machine and persuaded the powers that be to let me purchase Unix so we could use it for a central configuration management environment. I also had a budget for a line printer for listings, but I instead purchased the (then) brand new HP Laserjet instead. My chief technical guy used nroff to produce a series of macros to enable us to write documents to a house style on this laserjet. All of a sudden, we had version controlled documents that were by far the most consistent and good looking in the company. The only disadvantage was that we couldn't add diagrams. This system kept us going until we were more or less forced by the take up of Microsoft Word around us (and particularly its ability to include pictures and diagrams) about 5 years later. But I became a fan of WYSIWYM and have been hankering after something like that for a long time. I even blogged about it some ideas 2004 http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk/2004/11/wysiwyg-v-wysiwym/

Fast forward to today, and I am semi retired, but still writing software and attempting to establish a house style and not enjoying trying to do it in Libre Office. I am also frustrated how these open formats do not play well with my git version control system. Having just found latex and its capabilities I can see that it has all the benefits our original system had plus the advantage of graphics. As a test I wrote a quite complicated entity relationship diagram using the tikz package and once I had worked out how to do it, surprisingly easy to get a very high quality result.

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For me, it was necessity. My first programming job (working part-time for a research division of my university) required me to edit some documentation, but my computer only had WordPad on it, and WordPad is terrible for absolutely everything so I tried to find an alternative since I wasn't going to buy Word just for that job. I noticed a co-worker using LaTeX to put something together, and I'd heard of it before but never used it. I spent a couple weeks reading the Wikibook on LaTeX before I finally decided to install it on my work machine and convert the original documentation over. It was glorious.

Now, I use it for just about anything that isn't a group project—software documentation, class assignments, and especially typesetting public-domain books (okay, and some non-public domain ones too).

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I wrote a lot of papers and documentation in RUNOFF on RT-11, and nroff and troff on VAX/VMS, Unix System 3, and BSD 4.3, all through the 80's. All the quirky .xx commands never seemed to quite do what I wanted, and the resulting source text would often end up very difficult to read and spell check. TeX was clearly a better way, and when it became available I was quick to adopt it. The big annoyance in that time frame was pushing drafts out of the 200 dpi printer that was a big deal at the time but combined all the good features of a 200 dpi thermal fax machine with an off-brand photocopier. Drafts were charged by the inch, and really had to be photocopied for longevity.

Being pragmatic and needing to communicate (meaning share documents) with the non-academic world Word ate the majority of my day-to-day business and technical writing. But TeX has always been there for those things it suits best. (We'll just ignore the brief affair with the SGML-based monstrosity named Ventura Publisher, and the flirtations with FrameMaker.)

I've recently dusted off my first editions of the TeX book and LaTeX book, and expect to be returning to them as a preferred way to build technical documentation. Especially now that my favorite little language (Lua) has found its way into the TeX family.

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I wrote my PhD thesis in troff (heavy math involved), a few years later I was invited to collaborate with my advisor on some followup papers written in LaTeX. LaTeX has much more structure (in the sense of structured programming à la Pascal and such), I got hooked. Never really looked at TeX. Almost everything larger than a page or so I write in LaTeX nowadays.

I also dabbled in writing largeish documents in Word (mostly collaborating with a group of people, luckily no math but plenty of graphs and spreadsheet-style tables), not a experience I look forward to repeat anytime.

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I came via a programming route. Had heard about LaTex over the years, but never taken the time to install all the requirements and get it working. Now, with the bundles that are available, I'm able to easily install on my Mac and Windows environments (primary documentation platforms for me).

As a Python programmer, I was using the Sphinx documentation tool. However, I wanted PDF output and Sphinx did not convert tables to PDF. After noting that Sphinx generated LaTex, I searched around, found longtable, and figured I could write a generator that would build that for me. After playing around a bit further, I determined it was easier to just write in LaText to start off with and then join it with some custom script-generated LaTex output that documents our data structures.

Been using it about a year now; have one 300 page technical manual completed and starting on a second one. Still very much a newbie, but still way more productive than the previous FrameMaker environment.

Also, since LaTex is strictly text files, I'm able to version control the source files and have more than one person working on the same document. Extremely efficient.

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To experiment and improvise.

When I was doing my bachelor's degree in Maths, I used MS Word for my project documentation. My topic was Linear Functionals so I had to face many challenges like equations and references. I know it's not a big deal. But I never did math in Word before. It was hell of a work load. My teacher did tell us all to try LaTex but she said it as if it was something very very hard to learn. So I continued with Word.

Later I was doing my MSc Statistics. I thought why not try. If I like it I will do it. Also in India at that time we had free 4G data from Jio. So I thought to use that data instead of wasting all my time on movies.

And hell yeah I loved it. I loved it more because I had not spent a rupee. And my practical records looks fantastic.

Just loving it.

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I wrote my masters thesis using MS word and always wondered there must be better tool out there. Then a friend of mine told me about LaTeX, I tried but gave up. After a year or two I took up a job to create pdf document of 6 volumes of Ramayanam, which I could read on iPad. I saw the formatting of Gita press gorakhpur and thought to use that template. Then posted the questions about the template on this forum and finally I managed to create a 6000 page pdf document with best formatting I have ever done in my life. Hats off to the forum and creator of LaTeX / XeLaTeX.

Now I write my notes and documents in XeLaTeX only. I am working on Laghu Siddhanta Kaumudi. The flexibility it offers, I can not explain in words.

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When I first started using LaTeX, I wanted to be able to write papers using a text editor rather than word processing program. I was willing to embed special characters using high-bit ASCII codes, and to generate underlines and other simple effects by embedding ANSI codes in the file. The only reason I started to learn LaTeX--rather than just printing raw text files--was that I needed footnotes, and I realized that it would be too hard to code that up myself. That's it--footnotes. Of course, I got a lot more from the bargain and was happy about that, especially later on when my work became more mathematical.

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I wanted to create a beautiful résumé. So, I downloaded moderncv and edited it to my heart's content.

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In my university, most of the people in Schools of Mathematics & Statistics and Physics (note that they are two schools) are using LaTeX as a primary typesetting. They use LaTeX for typing lecture notes, or assignments etc.

I am a artistic person (although I do Physics), so when I heard of my lecturer that there is something in this world called LaTeX - I instantly write my homework by using LaTeX.

Unfortunately, I am not using LaTeX to write my homework (guess how I do my homework) at the moment. Instead, I use LaTeX to author textbooks that can use semantic decorations (such as Tikz uses programming to draw diagrams). I am a Physics and Information Systems person (did I said I am an artistic person...), using LaTeX can practice my logics with organising the nodes logically and so on...

So my message is...

LaTeX can boost your marks!*

*(Although this is not always true, when I need to write textbooks for procrastination, I can't get rid of LaTeX)

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I'm just getting started, and haven't actually used LaTeX for a real project yet...

I've had a few projects lately related to programmatically-generated documents, and I'm not satisfied with the results. LaTeX was on my radar, but I didn't have time to investigate until last week.

Some process complex lab data and produce a report that describes the results. Early versions were plain *.txt files; other than using a bit of white space they were difficult to read at times. Lately I've been using HTML output which allows for more complex formatting and is still accessible; but the output is inconsistent between browsers, and prints terribly!

I have also let the creation of some documents which were quote large and repetitive (over 2400 pages on 11x17!). Typically these documents are created by hand in Word, but that clearly wasn't an option due to the scale needed for these. We were able to generate MS Word files in sections, which were manually stitched together, and tweaked to keep it from breaking.

I wanted to include diagrams, but haven't found a practical method of generating them.

At this point, LaTeX looks to be a great fit, as I can generate plain-text files easily enough (even broken across multiple files), then render them to print-perfect PDF files that anyone can view. With Tikz (or the like), I can even include those diagrams!

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It was listings, then bibtex, then beamer – and then I just got used to it.

I wrote and edited a couple of theses in Word (up to 200 pages), with dozens of figures and tables, hundreds of references and so on. It was not at all a bad experience. I took the time to really understand Word, its concepts, and also it quirks. I then developed strategies and macro packages to work with them and to automate repeating tasks. In the end it is just the point that you have to know your tool.

I came to LaTeX via LyX during my PhD time. My supervisor used LyX, so I started writing my papers with it. I started to love the easy bibliography handling with bibtex, however, the first thing that really stroke me was the listings package: Beautiful typesetting of listings, the ability to refer to line numbers, and automatic syntax highlighting! I could not imagine how to automate this with Word.

Then I had to prepare a lecture with 500+ slides. I never loved Powerpoint, which has, compared to Word nearly no concepts of semantic markup, hierarchical structure, and so on. So I tried beamer. As my slides tend to be very visual, it was a steep learning curve and I had to abondon LyX, as basically everything ended up to be ERT boxes. So I started with plain LaTeX in VIM. VIM spoiled capability to use any other editor, so I quickly stopped to use LyX for other stuff as well (too many spurious ighjkls in the middle of the text...).

And as I wrote: I just got used to it.

Today, I love it because of the great "programming capabilities" that let me define powerful problem-related concepts for my projects.

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Like many others, my thesis director told me to use LaTeX when I had to write something he had to read himself afterwards (he couldn't bear to read anything written with Word). Progressively I got to use LaTeX for everything to be printed, since the most straightforward letter to the most complicated math paper…

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Stupidly, I never managed to make a handout with Word or Open Office for my students in which I could place the graduation lines with real millimetres. I tried to integrate Geogebra documents into Word in vain: millimetres were no longer millimetres when printed.

I attended a professional training course on LaTeX, which I followed out of pure intellectual curiosity and I discovered all the possibilities of LaTeX.

I immediately adopted it for the quality of its French and mathematical typography as well as for the quality and perfect precision of its geometrical constructions.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

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I did not even know of the existence of TeX/LaTeX until the end of 2009. At that time, a professor of mine handed out his lecture notes in pdf format.

I was immediately impressed by their high typographical quality, compared to any other similar documents I have ever seen till then.

Moreover, previously, I had had some negative experiences with long documents containing quite some mathematical formulas. Hence, I was wondering how he managed to make such a beautiful text in Word (naively, I thought it was written with that tool).

My curiosity lasted a few days, until I saw a little writing at the bottom of the back of the cover page: "This document is written in LaTeX".

"LaTeX, what is it?" I thought, and a rapid search on the Internet made me discover this wonderful world!

CarLaTeX
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I was first introduced to LaTeX through LyX, as I was working on some documentation and some long, complex equations. Somehow, I found LyX online and when I tried and entered those equations and saw the outcome. I was honestly flabbergasted. It was so beautiful to eyes. That led me to the journey of learning LaTeX. I have since created many other extensive reports/documentations and I love it every time.

The Source control is one of the most important feature in my opinion. I can go back and look at the history of edits in my LaTeX files. (Imagine doing this in MS Word!) In fact, now is the best time to start on LaTeX with online repo like GitHub and online LaTeX editor like OverLeaf.com.

My biggest gripe is that my colleagues at work are not on board with it. They are missing out on so much. But because of that, I have to keep switching to MS suite.

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tl;dr automation

Back in 2012, I was writing programs for automated statistical analysis of datasets (simple stuff — think of linear regression). However, the requirement was to generate reports for business folks for each analysis. How was I supposed to generate automated reports using Word? So I started looking into LaTeX. I eventually programmed the entire document generation process. I have never looked back.

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    Exactly. I do the same all the time. I have large program that generate Latex on the fly as it runs. Each time I make any changes to the code, I simply run the program again and get a new Latex file generated. This is the main reason I will stay with Latex. – Nasser Mar 07 '22 at 11:53
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I'm from the Social Sciences area, and previously I wrote two bachelor's theses using MS Word. As many have already referred, it was very painful to format the documents, and every time a change was required, there were several misconfigurations.

During my master's, one of my advisors presented me to LaTex, and said that all effort it would require me to start writing would compensate later when I wouldn't have configuration problems during my thesis. So I spend most of the first year of my master's learning the basics of LaTex. The final document was great (although I had to convert the PDFs to DOCs, as my other supervisor did not know how to comment on PDF files).

Since then, I have worked only with LaTex for any scientific documents, including my PhD thesis now.

I wish I had learned about LaTex before, as it could have saved me a lot of headaches. Also, I try to encourage everyone I know at academia to learn it, showing them the benefits they can get after the initial learning "suffering".