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I use both the index and babel packages. They both redefine \markboth and \markright. If I include babel before index, the index package warns me about the double redefinition. Code:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[english]{babel}
\usepackage{index}
\begin{document}
\end{document}

Extract from the TeX output:

(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/index/index.sty

LaTeX Warning: Command \markboth  has changed.
               Check if current package is valid.


LaTeX Warning: Command \markright  has changed.
               Check if current package is valid.

) (./a.aux) (./a.aux) )

If I swap the two \usepackage lines so that index is loaded before babel, there's no warning. But either way I'm getting the definition of these commands from whichever is loaded last.

My objective is twofold: I want to get rid of the warning (because nonactionable warnings drown out the actionable ones), and I want to understand what I'm losing either way (I haven't spotted any problem so far, but I could be missing something, or run into unexpected problems later as I write more of the document). Presumably, if both packages redefine these commands, they have a good reason.

Should I include babel before or after index? If before, how do I get rid of the warning?

Is there anything I can/should do to make sure that both babel and index are working correctly? What problems should I be looking for?

lockstep
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Gilles 'SO- stop being evil'
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  • Do you need index at all? If you need multiple indexes, then use imakeidx –  Feb 11 '16 at 18:37
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    @ChristianHupfer I have macros that rely on index that I've been carrying around for years, not just for multiple indices but also \index* and possibly other features that I'm not recalling right now. I'd rather not sort them out at this time. I've never looked at imakeidx. (Could you add an answer mentioning it to this question?) – Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' Feb 11 '16 at 18:44
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    Done so ;-) I wonder, it has not been given as an answer (but as comment only, not showing how to use it) –  Feb 11 '16 at 18:54
  • if the language of your document is not english, then the substitutions of babel for common heading strings are what you'll probably want. i haven't looked, but i suspect that "Index" is the only option you'll get with the index package. – barbara beeton Feb 11 '16 at 20:31

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Edit 2023

In the meantime the LaTeX kernel has changed the \markboth and \markright command (to support extended mark options). That means that the check from index.sty fails regarding in any case, with and without babel and also regardless of the loading order.

The warning can not be avoid unless the package is adapted.

Old answer

Load index before babel you then will get both: the redefinition from index and the language additions from babel as babel will store the definition in \org@markboth and then use it.

Ulrike Fischer
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  • With index loaded FIRST, I've switched from babel to polyglossia (along with my ongoing conversion from pdflatex to lualatex). However, I'm still seeing the warnings: "LaTeX Warning: Command \markboth has changed. Check if current package is valid." and "Command \markright has changed. Check if current package is valid." Do I need to just accept that these warnings will continue, despite the index > polyglossia order? Thanks in advance! – RosesBouquet Feb 10 '24 at 22:16
  • why switching to polyglossia? babel works fine with lualatex (and in various part actually better than polyglossia). – Ulrike Fischer Feb 10 '24 at 22:29
  • I've read somewhere that polyglossia works better with lualatex, but it really doesn't matter to me as long as I get the same functionality. The issue is that I get the identical warnings whether I use babel OR polyglossia immediately after loading index. Neither babel NOR polyglossia prevent the warnings from appearing. What am I missing?? Thank you!! – RosesBouquet Feb 10 '24 at 22:36
  • @RosesBouquet I added an edit. You could try to contact the author (the readme on ctan contains a mail address), but with such an old sty it could be difficult to get an update. – Ulrike Fischer Feb 10 '24 at 22:58
  • Thank you. I agree with your assessment. Your edit will help those unfortunates like me who continue to search for answers that otherwise don't exist. I sometimes keep poking at the issue hoping that something will have changed. I'll try to contact the index author just the same. Thanks again!! – RosesBouquet Feb 10 '24 at 23:31
  • The index Author appears to be David M. Jones, but I don't see an email for DMJ in the package documentation. I'll continue to look. Any thoughts or ideas? – RosesBouquet Feb 10 '24 at 23:43
  • @RosesBouquet as I wrote there is an email in the readme https://www.ctan.org/pkg/index – Ulrike Fischer Feb 10 '24 at 23:44
  • Email sent. Thank you! – RosesBouquet Feb 11 '24 at 00:10