Modify (german) APA Bibliography to include origlocation and origpublisher with origyear

Question

this is my first question here, so please be kind if I make stupid mistakes. I am using overleaf (I also have TexWorks installed but prefer overleaf to sync between devices (and because the visual editor is quite nice)), so I can't really see every file.

I use the apa-syle as a base, but want to modify it (I don't need to comply with the guidelines but like apa most). My problem is that apa doesn't include the fields origlocation and origpublisher. I want to include them in the parenthesis of origdate at the end of the bibliography entry which reads:

(Original erschienen 1890)

What I want is one of these (I don't care which format of origpublisher is displayed, I'll take whatever works):

(Original erschienen 1890, Hamburg, Hrsg. von F. Engels)

(Original erschienen 1890, Hamburg, Friedrich Engels (Hrsg.))

(Original erschienen 1890, Hamburg, Engels, F. (Hrsg.))

In my MWE, I included 4 bib-entries: The first (Weber) only has origdate, so is doing fine. The second (Marx) is what I described above. The third (Schumpeter) has origdate and origpublisher and should display as:

(Original erschienen 1942, Hrsg. von E. Salin)

The fourth (Piketty) additionally has origtitle, which would be nice to include into the parenthesis. There is already an answered question regarding this, but I don't really understand it, wasn't able to implement it and its also not that important for me now. Same goes for including series and number in the apa-style, which was answered here.

This is my MWE:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
\usepackage[backend=biber,
                           %citestyle=authoryear-icomp,
                           %bibstyle=apa,
                           style=apa,
                           ]{biblatex} % https://mediatum.ub.tum.de/doc/1315979/1315979.pdf https://mirrors.ibiblio.org/CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/biblatex/doc/biblatex.pdf http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/CTAN/info/translations/biblatex/de/biblatex-de-Benutzerhandbuch.pdf
\ExecuteBibliographyOptions{
    uniquelist=false,

%    origdate=apalong, %https://github.com/plk/biblatex-apa/blob/master/tex/latex/biblatex-apa/bbx/apa.bbx
}
\renewcommand*{\nameyeardelim}{\addspace} % remove comma in (Beadle and Tautum, 1941) This applies to citation only https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/452228/modifying-bibliography-with-biblatex-biber-apa-style-locationpublisherdoi
\begin{filecontents}{test.bib}
@InCollection{Weber1972,
  author    = {Weber, Max},
  date      = {1972},
  title     = {Wirtschaft und Gesellschaft: Grundriß der verstehenden Soziologie},
  edition   = {5., rev. Aufl.},
  isbn      = {3165336318},
  language  = {ger},
  location  = {Tübingen},
  publisher = {Mohr},
  origdate  = {1922},
  type      = {Band},
}
@InCollection{Marx1962,
  author         = {Marx, Karl},
  booktitle      = {Das Kapital},
  date           = {1962},
  title          = {Der Produktionsprozeß des Kapitals},
  booksubtitle   = {Kritik der politischen Ökonomie},
  edition        = {Nach der 4. Aufl.},
  location       = {Berlin},
  publisher      = {Dietz},
  volume         = {1},
  origdate       = {1890},
  origlocation   = {Hamburg},
  origpublisher  = {Engels, Friedrich},
}
@Book{Schumpeter1987,
  author         = {Schumpeter, Joseph A.},
  date           = {1987},
  title          = {Kapitalismus, Sozialismus und Demokratie},
  edition        = {6},
  editor         = {Seifert, Eberhard K.},
  isbn           = {3772012981},
  language       = {ger},
  location       = {Tübingen},
  number         = {172},
  pagetotal      = {542},
  publisher      = {Francke},
  series         = {Uni-Taschenbücher},
  address        = {Tübingen},
  origpublisher  = {Salin, Edgar},
  origdate       = {1942},
}
@Book{Piketty2016,
  author       = {Piketty, Thomas},
  date         = {2016},
  title        = {Das Kapital im 21. Jahrhundert},
  edition      = {1. Aufl. als Paperback},
  location     = {München},
  number       = {6236},
  origlanguage = {french},
  publisher    = {C.H.Beck},
  series       = {C.H. Beck Paperback},
  translator   = {Utz, Ilse and Lorenzer, Stefan},
  origdate     = {2013},
  origtitle    = {Le Capital au XXIe Si{'e}cle},
  ppn_gvk      = {1830858505},
}
\end{filecontents}
\addbibresource{test.bib}
\begin{document}
\section{Test}
Lorem \parencite[190]{Marx1962}. Ipsum \parencite[30]{Weber1972}. Dolor \parencite[60]{Piketty2016}. Sit amet \parencite[391]{Schumpeter1987}.
\section{Bibliography}
\printbibliography[heading=none]
\end{document}

Output:

So thanks for any help with that.

Herausgeber is editor and not publisher. So in this case you'd be looking for "origeditor" (which doesn't exist) instead of origpublisher. editor is a name list, whereas publisher is just a normal list field without name parsing. — moewe, Feb 24 '24 at 10:12

score 0 · Accepted Answer · answered Feb 23 '24 at 17:04

A partial answer to get you started.

The definition for printing origyear in apa.bbx is given as a \newbibmacro and not as a \DeclareFieldFormat. If you want to use that definition as a quick (but not necessarily semantically correct) way to add also the location and publisher then you can renew that macro.

\renewbibmacro*{origyear}{%
  \printtext[parens]{%
       \bibcpstring{origyear}
       \setunit{\addnbspace}%
       \printorigdate%
     \iflistundef{origlocation}%
       {}%
       {\addcomma\addspace \printlist{origlocation}}%
     \iflistundef{origpublisher}%
       {}%
       {\addcomma\addspace Hrsg. von \printlist{origpublisher}}%
     }%
}

Result:

You can see in the macro that origlocation and origpublisher are of type list. This comes from the .bbl file that Biber generates:

\entry{Marx1962}{inbook}{}
      \name{author}{1}{}{%
        {{un=0,uniquepart=base,hash=af80d32a7d375e934f94bdfb27bf2999}{%
           family={Marx},
           familyi={M\bibinitperiod},
           given={Karl},
           giveni={K\bibinitperiod},
           givenun=0}}%
      }
      \list{location}{1}{%
        {Berlin}%
      }
      \list{origlocation}{1}{%
        {Hamburg}%
      }
      \list{origpublisher}{1}{%
        {Engels, Friedrich}%
      }
      \list{publisher}{1}{%
        {Dietz}%
      }
      % [...some entries removed...]
      \field{booksubtitle}{Kritik der politischen Ökonomie}
      \field{booktitle}{Das Kapital}
      \field{edition}{Nach der 4. Aufl.}
      \field{origyear}{1890}
      \field{title}{Der Produktionsprozeß des Kapitals}

List entries are printed as is, without applying name formatting, so this results in Hrsg. von Engels, Friedrich instead of Hrsg. von F. Engels what you wanted.

It would therefore be better if Biber would know that origpublisher is a person name, then it could extract and format the first name, last name, initials, like for Marx in the .bbl fragment above. This requires changes to the data model, as was also done in the linked post, by writing a custom biblatex-dm.cfg. In the mean time of course you can change the .bib file to perform the formatting of the publisher name manually.

That worked quite good, but I had to add \ifboolexpr{not test {\iffieldundef{origyear}} not test {\iffieldundef{labelyear}} and not test {\iffieldsequal{labelyear}{origyear}}} from apa.bbx before printtext[parens]... to clear the field for entries without origyear. — edelzartbitterschokolade, Feb 24 '24 at 12:39

Modify (german) APA Bibliography to include origlocation and origpublisher with origyear

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