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Whenever I search something through Google using Tor Browser, it:

  • Either shows me the Google Sorry page and doesn't allow me to proceed further:

    Google Sorry page

  • Or asks me to enter the CAPTCHA to view the search results:

    CAPTCHA form

Either of the above two happens with every Google Search. It doesn't ever let me take to search results normally when using Tor Browser. (This doesn't happen when I am not using Tor).

So, does Google already know that I am using the Tor Browser? Should I do something at my end.

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    If Google is really Tor friendly, why don't they turn off the bot test for exit relay IPs? – mirimir Oct 30 '13 at 03:53
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    You know, StartPage is basically just a proxy for Google - you get the same results, just without the tracking (attempts) and blocks. Using their search engine is good for them, since it bumps its popularity and ad view count, so I like to use it whenever I'm in Tor. – JamesTheAwesomeDude Nov 02 '13 at 15:01
  • @mirimir Then bots would use Tor to search google to harvest results and overload Google servers. I see no reason why they should take the risk. – Ufoguy Dec 04 '13 at 15:40
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    I did find some governmental and legal sites such as commercal register in Germany that do check the usage of TOR and they tell you, that such access is blocked. –  Dec 04 '13 at 08:25
  • sometimes, i stcuk in Google's CAPTCHA loophole. Once i consecutively passed 20 challenges right, but still couldn't pass – kmonsoor Mar 08 '14 at 10:54
  • the situation worsens when the request link has encoded browser affiliation like "https://www.google .com/search?client=aff-maxthon-maxthon4&channel=t26&q=abc" – kmonsoor Mar 08 '14 at 10:57
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    Use startpage.com instead. It's an anonymous layer on top of Google that is recommended by the Tor. – get52 Feb 17 '14 at 20:56
  • Ive just querried Google.com against sth and I wasn't presented with captcha or any other security thing –  Dec 03 '14 at 13:55
  • Seemed the questioner already understood Google is aware of Tor usage, otherwise Google would not have behaved so unusually. While it was helpful to read the above comments to get an understanding as to why Google throws such a curve, the real worthwhile question is, what to do - in order to get Google to be cooperative. The answer thus far appears to be, nothing can be done. I'm now going to try one of the lesser search engines. www.howtogeek.com/114004/how-to-browse-anonymously-with-tor/ claims, "It’s pre-configured with Startpage and DuckDuckGo, search engines that respect your privacy," so –  Jul 27 '15 at 14:17

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In this case, Google is not interested in the fact that you are using Tor. Google runs some analysis on search queries and they sometimes produce this result.

The background is that Google has to deal with all sorts of abuse; for example, some people send lots of queries in a short timespan to overload the servers. Google checks for this and presents the warning in your question. This can happen when you use Tor, but also when your company uses a central proxy and when lots of users Google at the same time.

In your case, many Tor users probably used the exit to send a search query to Google. Their algorithms flagged that as suspicious, and so you get this message. In the second case, you have the chance to present yourself as a human (solving the captcha) and Google will process your query.

Normally this behaviour changes when your Tor circuit changes. I don't see this very often. However, you can also use an alternative search engine like Bing or DuckDuckGo.

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So, does Google already know that I am using the Tor Browser?

  1. Google (and any other website) has the ability to know that you are a Tor user because the list of Tor exit relays is public.

  2. Google (and any other website) has the ability to know that you are using Tor Browser because of it's browser fingerprint.

Should I do something at my end.

No. Nothing to worry about because of this.

Google's automated abuse prevention systems only "think" it's better to prevent access in this case. (Those abuse prevention systems probably do neither make of use ability 1. or 2.) This is because, too many people are sharing the same Tor exit relay and the abuse prevention systems "think" it is automated access.

Either use Tor Browser's new identity feature and check if that helps or use another search engine.

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    Google has the ability to know that your are using Tor but I do not think that they are actually checking your IP address in the Tor exit relays list for common traffic. – pabouk - Ukraine stay strong Oct 04 '13 at 12:04
  • Google has supported Tor and other anonymity/privacy friendly projects (e.g., Tahoe-LAFS) through its Summer[s] of Code. Also, Google staff have posted supportively on tor-talk. – mirimir Oct 09 '13 at 03:39
  • @pabouk There are different ways to answer this question. I don't think that the actual google system deciding to show "we are sorry" uses the information if Tor is being used or not into its calculation. On the other hand, I would be surprised, if none of google's systems do analyize IP addresses and fingerprints. They have the ability to know it, that is right and I wanted to point that out. – adrelanos Oct 10 '13 at 05:52
  • @pabouk I however improved my answer thanks to your feedback. – adrelanos Oct 10 '13 at 06:00
  • By browser fingerprint - do you mean the User Agent sent by browser? I think Tor sends its user agent as it is "Firefox".. – Aditya Oct 11 '13 at 17:43
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    The User Agent is only one of dozens of possibilities to fingerprint browsers. See http://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/536/what-is-browser-fingerprinting-what-is-linkability – adrelanos Oct 14 '13 at 23:22
  • @adrelanos: Thanks for that question. Never knew that we can be so uniquely identified through the use of browser and the possibility of our activities being tracked even without the use of cookies. Moreover, now I begin to understand why it is always recommended to disable/remove the unnecessary plugins - they leak so much information about us!! – Aditya Oct 16 '13 at 17:16
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It is easy for any website owner to know you are using Tor because the list of Tor exit nodes is publicly available. Google has said they are not specifically targeting Tor users by making them solve captchas. Rather it is because each exit node sends so much traffic to Google that the traffic patterns seem similar to those of a bot, which would also send a lot of traffic to Google at once. See also: https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html#GoogleCAPTCHA

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Google does not let Tor users search without a CAPTCHA. Fortunatelly, there are some alternative search engines, which are more primittive on this topic:

Search engines with compact front pages are more convenient through Tor because they load faster.

From the TOR FAQ:

Google makes me solve a CAPTCHA or tells me I have spyware installed. This is a known and intermittent problem; it does not mean that Google considers Tor to be spyware.

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  • I do not think that Google is actively detecting if a connection arrived through the Tor network. See the earlier answers. – pabouk - Ukraine stay strong Oct 04 '13 at 12:07
  • @pabouk indeed, probably not in the spam detection system. On the other hand, I would be surprised if Google isn't working on making use of browser fingerprints and other interesting information (such as connections coming from a Tor exit). See my answers and its comments for more. – adrelanos Oct 10 '13 at 06:03
  • @adrelanos: I did not wrote it exactly as I wanted. I rather wanted to say that CAPTCHA is not probably a direct result of the fact that you connected through Tor. I would agree that in some situations they probably use the information that the connection is coming from a Tor exit. – pabouk - Ukraine stay strong Oct 10 '13 at 07:13